FW: [s-cars] Custom Pedal set, moved to heel-toe contortion

Tue Apr 29 20:03:35 EDT 2003

I have very little to add here, but some common sense practices I
developed from no racing, and no schooling (yet). But, having had many,
well several, - okay one in particular -  car over the years which did
not idle and run well at a stopped incline, I have "learned" the
aforementioned technique of rolling the right foot, while on the brake
over to the gas pedal to keep her running. (another Opel story). The
pbrake is the easy way out for gurls.

This technique is finely honed when your starter motor is completely
shot and instead of fixing it, you always park on a hill, for an easy
push/roll start. When on the incline, you can be sure, you're not gonna
let her stall out!

Doug L (pretending he knows sumthin)

most racers I've worked with and
> talked to
> put the ball of the foot on the brake and roll the side of the
> foot onto the
> gas while braking.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth G Hayes <kenneth_hayes at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:59 pm
Subject: FW: [s-cars] Custom Pedal set,  moved to heel-toe contortion

>
> While talking to Bob Bondurant about the heel-toe method he said the
> 'heel-toe method' was actually created and dubbed such in formula
> 1 when
> they were experimenting with relocating the pedals.  Left to right
> was the
> clutch, gas, and brake.  With this setup you could put your heel
> on the gas
> and your toe on the brake comfortably.  Problem was the drivers
> would forget
> they were in a 'special' pedaled car and hit the wrong pedal as a
> reflex.According to Bob, after nearly killing himself he was happy
> to see the
> engineers go back to the standard pedal setup.  Where they heel-toe
> technique had to be modified to adapt to the 'normal' pedal
> arrangement.
> While some racers/ instructors actually contort to put heel on gas
> and the
> ball of the foot on the brake, most racers I've worked with and
> talked to
> put the ball of the foot on the brake and roll the side of the
> foot onto the
> gas while braking.  Of course, the pedals have to be setup
> properly for
> either heel-toe method to work well.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> [s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Dave Burig
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: chris chambers; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Custom Pedal set/heel-toe
>
>
>
> As one who uses the misnamed heel-toe technique subconsciously in
> dailydriving, I, for one, have never used the technique shown in
> the diagram on
> the ebay page for this product.  The act of actually putting one's
> heel on
> the gas pedal while toeing the brake (or even using the ball of
> the foot)
> seems utterly ridiculous at best, and requires quite an awkward
> contortion.Heel-toe as I learned it (thank you Ms. St. James, high
> heels and all)
> doesn't involve the heel at all.
> Am I all wet, or is this a POSEUR/RICER mod?  Can I get mine purple
> anodized?  If so, how well will they conduct heat?
> I actually think our cars are set up pretty well for heel-toeing,
> using my
> stock pedals and stock 12EEEs (you know what they say about guys
> with big
> feet...they have an easier time matching revs!)
> Discuss,
>
> Dave "puttin' my $80.00 where it belongs, in foamy pops and timing
> belttools" Burig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> [s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of chris chambers
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:03 AM
> To: Vickie; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Custom Pedal set for S-cars
>
>
> Hi "Alvert" aka vickie?
>
> I am interested in the pedals but have a question.
>
> My gas pedal doesn't have the pedal anymore, but I think it's just a
> cover. It sounds like their pedals attach to the old pedal though,
> willthis cause a problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
> --- Vickie <sochi3 at cox.net> wrote:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > I   I am working on the GB for four piece pedal set (including the
> > foot rest). We need at least 10 people. They make a set for never
> > S4's and willing to develop for our cars as well. The price
> >     will be $50-$80. Please e-mail me if interested sochi3 at cox.net.
> >     You can view their S4 set on ebay, item #2412770062.
> >
> >     If anyone lives near Charlestone SC and willing to go in for
> > measurements please let me know (then I don't have to send them my
> > foot rest and pedal covers)
> >
> >     Thanks
> >     Albert
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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