[s-cars] Anyone in Denver with a relatively stock S4 and lightweight flywheel?

Paul Park Paul.Park at Colorado.EDU
Fri Dec 5 12:53:23 EST 2003 

All this complaint of chatter has me worried about buying a lightweight 
flywheel.

Thanks,
Paul
-purposely excluding Hap's car because it's nowhere near stock, and I 
doubt he'd let someone like me drive his car;-)

On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 10:09 AM, 
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>    1. Re:  Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition... (Bruce Mendel)
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>       (Joseph Pizzimenti)
>    3. Re:  Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>       (Joseph Pizzimenti)
>    4. RE:  Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition... (Trevor Frank)
>    5. RE:  Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>       (Robert Pastore)
>    6.  LWFW / tranny clatter - update (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK))
>    7. Re:  Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:15:22 -0500
> From: "Bruce Mendel" <Brucem105 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: <mlped at qwest.net>, "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>,	<pizzoman at yahoo.com>,
> 	<t44tq at mindspring.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> The tiggler is nice, but I "know" of one that does not require a 
> piercing,
> it has a little loop that fits around the tongue.
>
> I hear Pizzo uses that one on his boyfriend as he did not want to get 
> his
> toingue pierced.
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mlp qwest" <mlped at qwest.net>
> To: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>; <pizzoman at yahoo.com>; 
> <t44tq at mindspring.com>;
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> If we keep this up long enough, I think I know what all this bench 
>> racing
> is
>> going to get everyone for Christmas. (please put your coffee cups down
>> first) www.tiggler.com
>>
>>
>> OK, so who is that I mumbling "Unfair advantage" in the back ground?
> Pizzo?
>>
>> mlp
>>
>>
>> ~-----Original Message-----
>> ~From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Bob DG
>>
>> ~
>> ~Yup, 11.6 is out of my league.
>> ~
>> ~
>> ~>From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>>
>> ~>
>> ~>Congratulations.
>> ~>
>> ~>You can beat a stock car.
>> ~>
>> ~>Too bad mine ain't.  =)
>> ~>
>> ~>Point of reference:
>> ~>http://www.buschurracing.com/index.html
>> ~>
>> ~>And that 11.65 at 117.88 is on the stock turbo.
>> ~>
>> ~>That's enough benchracing for one day, though.
>> ~>
>> ~>
>> ~>
>> ~>--- Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com> wrote:
>> ~> > Oh really? does this EVO I am giong up against have
>> ~> > any mods?? I would hope
>> ~> > so because in comparing the EVO with the STi the STI
>> ~> > is ALWAYS faster in a
>> ~> > straight line. My car is dead even with the STi from
>> ~> > 0-100. = my car faster
>> ~> > than a stock EVO. Though I don't mind a challenge.
>> ~> >
>> ~> > Sorry Pizzo, that FMIC just works too well for me.
>> ~> >
>> ~> > BOB
>> ~
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:27:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: mlped at qwest.net, Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com>, t44tq at mindspring.com,
> 	s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <20031205162746.43335.qmail at web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Mikey,
> I'd be careful about posting links like that.
> What is it they say, "What goes around, comes around?"
>
> You do have daughters, don't you?
>
> Unfair advantage, indeed...
>
>
> --- mlp qwest <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> If we keep this up long enough, I think I know what
>> all this bench racing is
>> going to get everyone for Christmas. (please put
>> your coffee cups down
>> first) www.tiggler.com
>>
>>
>> OK, so who is that I mumbling "Unfair advantage" in
>> the back ground?  Pizzo?
>>
>> mlp
>>
>>
>> ~-----Original Message-----
>> ~From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Bob DG
>>
>> ~
>> ~Yup, 11.6 is out of my league.
>> ~
>> ~
>> ~>From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>>
>> ~>
>> ~>Congratulations.
>> ~>
>> ~>You can beat a stock car.
>> ~>
>> ~>Too bad mine ain't.  =)
>> ~>
>> ~>Point of reference:
>> ~>http://www.buschurracing.com/index.html
>> ~>
>> ~>And that 11.65 at 117.88 is on the stock turbo.
>> ~>
>> ~>That's enough benchracing for one day, though.
>> ~>
>> ~>
>> ~>
>> ~>--- Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com> wrote:
>> ~> > Oh really? does this EVO I am giong up against
>> have
>> ~> > any mods?? I would hope
>> ~> > so because in comparing the EVO with the STi
>> the STI
>> ~> > is ALWAYS faster in a
>> ~> > straight line. My car is dead even with the STi
>> from
>> ~> > 0-100. = my car faster
>> ~> > than a stock EVO. Though I don't mind a
>> challenge.
>> ~> >
>> ~> > Sorry Pizzo, that FMIC just works too well for
>> me.
>> ~> >
>> ~> > BOB
>> ~
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:37:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: Bruce Mendel <Brucem105 at comcast.net>, mlped at qwest.net,	Bob DG
> 	<bobs6 at msn.com>, t44tq at mindspring.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
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> Seems rather odd that Bruce knows of this first hand,
> er, tongue.
>
> Although that does explain where Bruce gets that lisp
> from.
>
> Pizzo
>
>
> --- Bruce Mendel <Brucem105 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The tiggler is nice, but I "know" of one that does
>> not require a piercing,
>> it has a little loop that fits around the tongue.
>>
>> I hear Pizzo uses that one on his boyfriend as he
>> did not want to get his
>> toingue pierced.
>>
>> Bruce
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mlp qwest" <mlped at qwest.net>
>> To: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>; <pizzoman at yahoo.com>;
>> <t44tq at mindspring.com>;
>> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:02 AM
>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some
>> competition...
>>
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> If we keep this up long enough, I think I know
>> what all this bench racing
>> is
>>> going to get everyone for Christmas. (please put
>> your coffee cups down
>>> first) www.tiggler.com
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so who is that I mumbling "Unfair advantage"
>> in the back ground?
>> Pizzo?
>>>
>>> mlp
>>>
>>>
>>> ~-----Original Message-----
>>> ~From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Bob DG
>>>
>>> ~
>>> ~Yup, 11.6 is out of my league.
>>> ~
>>> ~
>>> ~>From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Congratulations.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>You can beat a stock car.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Too bad mine ain't.  =)
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Point of reference:
>>> ~>http://www.buschurracing.com/index.html
>>> ~>
>>> ~>And that 11.65 at 117.88 is on the stock turbo.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>That's enough benchracing for one day, though.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>--- Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com> wrote:
>>> ~> > Oh really? does this EVO I am giong up
>> against have
>>> ~> > any mods?? I would hope
>>> ~> > so because in comparing the EVO with the STi
>> the STI
>>> ~> > is ALWAYS faster in a
>>> ~> > straight line. My car is dead even with the
>> STi from
>>> ~> > 0-100. = my car faster
>>> ~> > than a stock EVO. Though I don't mind a
>> challenge.
>>> ~> >
>>> ~> > Sorry Pizzo, that FMIC just works too well
>> for me.
>>> ~> >
>>> ~> > BOB
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:21 -0800
> From: "Trevor Frank" <tfrank at symyx.com>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>, <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>,
> 	<t44tq at mindspring.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>,
> 	<pizzoman at yahoo.com>
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>
> At the One Lap, we beat them and sometimes they beat us.  I was at 320
> to the ground.  Dollar for dollar on mod's I suspect that eventually
> they would be the clear winners, 10 years of suspension and engine
> development has to account for something.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob DG [mailto:bobs6 at msn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:59 PM
> To: gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com; t44tq at mindspring.com;
> s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>
> No, Gary you'll do fine. Just watch when you get into the twisties
> though...
> Those suckers are a bit lighter than our tanks. :)
>
>
>> From: "Lewis, Gary M" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>
>> To: "TM" <t44tq at mindspring.com>, "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>,
>> <s-car-list at audifans.com>, <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:19:40 -0800
>>
>> Like what??
>>
>> More than this?
>>
>> RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2 Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26
> Turbine,
>> Factory K26 Cold side (Audi Works '999' P/N) with 50mm intake and
> custom
>> Innovative Turbo compressor wheel), Spec II Clutch, 26 psi software,
> FMIC
>> on the dwg board.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TM [mailto:t44tq at mindspring.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:14 PM
>>> To: 'Bob DG'; s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry Bob, but you'll need a lot more than MAF, injectors and
>>> chips to kill an Evo.
>>>
>>> Taka
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On > Behalf Of Bob DG
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:45 PM
>>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>>
>>>
>>> Joey,
>>> I think you just talked me into the rs2 maf, injectors, and
>>> new chip we discussed. I have no desire to see your rear end...
>>>
>>> Tell me again the cheapest place for these parts.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:15:20 -0500
> From: Robert Pastore <rpastore at animalfeeds.com>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: 'Joseph Pizzimenti' <pizzoman at yahoo.com>,	Bruce Mendel
> 	<Brucem105 at comcast.net>, mlped at qwest.net,	Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com>,
> 	t44tq at mindspring.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
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> Hey Bruce, can't my Treo do that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Pizzimenti [mailto:pizzoman at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:38 AM
> To: Bruce Mendel; mlped at qwest.net; Bob DG; t44tq at mindspring.com;
> s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>
>
> Seems rather odd that Bruce knows of this first hand,
> er, tongue.
>
> Although that does explain where Bruce gets that lisp
> from.
>
> Pizzo
>
>
> --- Bruce Mendel <Brucem105 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The tiggler is nice, but I "know" of one that does
>> not require a piercing,
>> it has a little loop that fits around the tongue.
>>
>> I hear Pizzo uses that one on his boyfriend as he
>> did not want to get his
>> toingue pierced.
>>
>> Bruce
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mlp qwest" <mlped at qwest.net>
>> To: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>; <pizzoman at yahoo.com>;
>> <t44tq at mindspring.com>;
>> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:02 AM
>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some
>> competition...
>>
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> If we keep this up long enough, I think I know
>> what all this bench racing
>> is
>>> going to get everyone for Christmas. (please put
>> your coffee cups down
>>> first) www.tiggler.com
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so who is that I mumbling "Unfair advantage"
>> in the back ground?
>> Pizzo?
>>>
>>> mlp
>>>
>>>
>>> ~-----Original Message-----
>>> ~From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Bob DG
>>>
>>> ~
>>> ~Yup, 11.6 is out of my league.
>>> ~
>>> ~
>>> ~>From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Congratulations.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>You can beat a stock car.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Too bad mine ain't.  =)
>>> ~>
>>> ~>Point of reference:
>>> ~>http://www.buschurracing.com/index.html
>>> ~>
>>> ~>And that 11.65 at 117.88 is on the stock turbo.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>That's enough benchracing for one day, though.
>>> ~>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>
>>> ~>--- Bob DG <bobs6 at msn.com> wrote:
>>> ~> > Oh really? does this EVO I am giong up
>> against have
>>> ~> > any mods?? I would hope
>>> ~> > so because in comparing the EVO with the STi
>> the STI
>>> ~> > is ALWAYS faster in a
>>> ~> > straight line. My car is dead even with the
>> STi from
>>> ~> > 0-100. = my car faster
>>> ~> > than a stock EVO. Though I don't mind a
>> challenge.
>>> ~> >
>>> ~> > Sorry Pizzo, that FMIC just works too well
>> for me.
>>> ~> >
>>> ~> > BOB
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:01:29 -0500
> From: "Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)" <WQQ2PXK at ups.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] LWFW / tranny clatter - update
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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>
> An update for those who were interested:
>
> My clattering LWFW was finally quieted last night.  After the techs 
> added 3
> quarts of tranny fluid upon install, it seemed full after a series of
> topping off efforts.  Nope.  Took almost a full 4th quart using 
> Rossato's
> Swedish Penis Pump filler.  Idle clatter is minimized (but still there 
> a
> bit), and bogged 2nd-5th clatter is WAY less notable.
>
> Most interestingly, don't know how there is a correlation 
> (Bueller?)...  1st
> / reverse CLUTCH chatter is all but gone now, just a hair in reverse.  
> Odd.
> Hadn't driven car in a week due to radiator replacement, finished that 
> late
> last night, shifts, clutches, drives like a dream.  I'll take it.  Now 
> I'll
> only swear at SPEC's service, not their product I suppose.
>
> Maybe it was remedied by all that coolant spewing from that upper 
> radiator
> hose I must have perforated during my 1 a.m. install completion last
> night... d'oh.  So what's another day off the road and another $100... 
>  YAY
> for me!
>
> -Paul
> CT mit 7-13" a-comin and me sans f'n SNOWS!  DAMMIT for being too lazy 
> to
> buy them yet!
> '95 //S6 had clean engine, now covered in nice blue coolant, again, 
> and now
> parked for Nor'easter
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:10:41 -0500
> From: "Ingo D. Rautenberg" <ingo at waratap.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
> To: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>, <t44tq at mindspring.com>,
> 	<gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>,
> 	<pizzoman at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <004801c3bb52$b72232d0$52bab1d0 at ingo>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> OK, I know I shouldn't ask -- I 'm pretty sure I know what FM means -- 
>  but
> what is IC in this instance?
>
> Ingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com>
> To: <t44tq at mindspring.com>; <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>;
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>
>
>> Why would I install a MAF, injectors, and a new chip if I had an 
>> otherwise
>> stock car? The FMIC comment should have given you an idea.
>>
>>
>>> From: "TM" <t44tq at mindspring.com>
>>> To: "'Lewis, Gary M'" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>,"'Bob DG'"
>>> <bobs6 at msn.com>,<s-car-list at audifans.com>,<pizzoman at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:02:56 -0500
>>>
>>> That's a lot more than Bob mentioned.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about 0-1320 or in the real world?
>>>
>>> Taka
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lewis, Gary M [mailto:gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:20 PM
>>> To: TM; Bob DG; s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>>
>>>
>>> Like what??
>>>
>>> More than this?
>>>
>>> RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2 Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 
>>> Turbine,
>>> Factory K26 Cold side (Audi Works '999' P/N) with 50mm intake and 
>>> custom
>>> Innovative Turbo compressor wheel), Spec II Clutch, 26 psi software,
>>> FMIC on the dwg board.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TM [mailto:t44tq at mindspring.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:14 PM
>>>> To: 'Bob DG'; s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
>>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry Bob, but you'll need a lot more than MAF, injectors and
>>>> chips to kill an Evo.
>>>>
>>>> Taka
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>>>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On > Behalf Of Bob DG
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:45 PM
>>>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com; pizzoman at yahoo.com
>>>> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Looks like Haps' RAIS has some competition...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joey,
>>>> I think you just talked me into the rs2 maf, injectors, and
>>>> new chip we discussed. I have no desire to see your rear end...
>>>>
>>>> Tell me again the cheapest place for these parts.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
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