[s-cars] More on Air Fuel Gauges, Wide Band Sensor Type

Trevor Frank tfrank at symyx.com
Fri Feb 14 09:33:40 EST 2003


And I built the Tech Edge unit,  a little more expensive than the DIY
one more like 70 in a kitted form with a 110-120 O2.  There newest
version is very cool because it conditions the output so that you don't
have to use a lookup table I think it will also buffer some of the
output to look at later.  Takes about 3-4 hours to build depending on
skill, mine being fairly poor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Link [mailto:BrianL at starsys.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:45 PM
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Cc: sjmauto at attbi.com
Subject: [s-cars] More on Air Fuel Gauges, Wide Band Sensor Type


Scott and the rest.

I built the diy-wb (not the tech edge) unit and it works quite well for
tuning purposes the diy site is a not for profit based group who did the
development of the circuitry.  Boards and components will run about $50
or less.  Highly recommended!! The sensors are $120.  BTW Audi cigarette
lighters make for lousy DC sources.

Brian Link
91 200 20v  (12:1 at WOT)

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From: SJM Autotechnik <sjmauto at attbi.com>
Subject: [s-cars] Air Fuel Gauges, Wide Band Sensor Type

Bob, and others

As you likely have heard, these so called A/F gauges that use the
standard heated 3 or 4 wire O2 sensor with 0-1VDC output have no real
capability to accurately measure the A/F ratio below the stoich point of
14.7 to 1. These 3 or 4 wire heated O2 sensors were designed to switch
or transition the voltage output from high to low and low to high as the
A/F ratio crosses 14.7 to 1

Of course this hasn't prevented the proliferation of these A/F gauges
and many folks driving around with a false sense of security that their
turbo engine is running rich enough under load.

There is a A/F gauge that uses the newer Wide Band O2 sensors, and can
give a more accurate A/F measure from about 10 to 1, up to 30 to 1 A/F
ratios.

A company based in Australia sells kits and complete gauges here

http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm

There is also a Wide Band O2  discussion list here

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/oz-diy-wb/

Most of the 20V Turbo chip sets I have tested using a portable 4 gas
exhaust analyzer have A/F ratios down close to 10 to 1 at full boost,
full load to keep the exhaust temps within a safe range. These tests
show CO% up above 9.0 % but with very low HC ppm levels below 100ppm
showing good ignition and combustion.

HTH

Scott Mockry
SJM Autotechnik


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