[s-cars] Blinder Laseerjammer.......real or junk?

Fri Feb 21 14:52:15 EST 2003

Wow Mark, I think you're going a bit fast to qualify this jammer as pure
bullshit. Illegal junk? So what? Does speeding is legal? If you ever
need a laser jammer or a radar detector, you're already doing illegal
stuff. And what about Euro headlights, aftermarket HID or the V1. Not
sure these things are perfectly legal except for the V1 in some states.

Now, the directional efficiency. Sure, if you really want to prove this
stuff is pure scrap and bury the jammer/detector in the most obstructed
part of the engine bay, to be sure it won't see anything except within
the sharpest angle, it will be useless. But just intall it 1 inch
recessed behing the grill and two inch from the grill edge and you have
a nice 60 degree angle of view. If the laser is more than 60 degree from
the direction you travel, it will see a relative speed lower than 50% of
your actual speed. Except with fixed position radars who can detect the
direction you travel and apply a correction factor, nobody will aim a
speed detector, either laser or radar, at such an open angle.

Sure this stuff is not perfect. If you want to be covered for rear
detection too, you'll need two of these babies, twice the price. If the
road is wet and dirty, you can forget the jammer efficiency in a matter
of minutes. But, besides useless laser detector which, in most case,
will tell you you already got a ticket, that's the only solution I've
seen against laser gun and it seems much more efficient than nothing at
all.

I know, laser detectors are supposed to detect the laser beam through
the glass of the car in front of you or by reflection to the body panels
but, when you speed, usually it's because there is not much cars on the
road, or at least I hope so. And why a cop, except if he's mentally
impaired, will make sure to aim his laser gun precisely to your laser
detector when the main advantage of recent laser guns is to have a beam
thin enough to be able to aim a small part of the car, away from the
windshield, and stay unnoticed to all windshield mounted laser detector,
and avoid any transmission to the following cars.

At the end, with the increasing popularity of laser guns in Montreal and
suburbs, I would rather have one of these jammers than a V1 or any other
laser detector.

Vincent.

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Objet : Re: [s-cars] Blinder Laseerjammer.......real or junk?

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Chris,

    This is worse than junk -- it's illegal junk in many states. But
more seriously, here's the problems (taken straight from their
listings):
*	Jams all laser guns at any distance 
*	Designed for hidden "in grille" install 

(A) Jams all laser guns at any distance.
    To do this, it would have to be omnipotent (maybe everyone in town
could chip in a couple cents to buy a single one and then simply leave
it on all day). More seriously, it can only jam laser guns it's pointed
at, and anyone who knows much about lasers knows that they are highly
directional (to an extreme degree).

(B) Designed for hidden "in grill" install.
    This means that both the sensor and the jammer sit recessed down
inside the grill, giving you one direction of coverage (straight-on).
This may work if the cop is directly in front of you, but how many speed
traps have you seen where the cop is in the center of the street vs.
parked behind something waiting for you to roll by?

 From their tests:
Jamming effectively when aiming at the license or the headlights (from
the test page).
    Most cops with lasers aim for the windshield of the vehicle, because
it makes a very effective target with a high reflectivity rate that's
easy to hit from a distance -- much easier to point at than the
headlight assembly or license plate. Unless you are using flat,
light-absorbing paints on your car (like many military vehicles do), a
good return can be obtained from the  paint, the body work, just about
any part of the car.

 From a customer test/testimonial:
To test the angle theory one more time, another pass was made with the
gun sitting on the OTHER side of the road. Again, the speed was read at
235 ft at 41 MPH.
   Most cops shoot speed traps (at least around here) at ranges of under
200 feet if they are using a laser device, because they want the element
of surprise (the laser is usually held against the leg until deployed).
So, blocking up to a certain distance helps, but only for certain types
of speed traps.

Also from a customer test/testimonial:
I should also mention that the Valentine One was part of this test. It
correctly identified the direction of each and every laser shot.
    This is a God-send, because the Valentine One picks up laser
emissions that pass through other car's windshields and scatter, giving
you a head's up in advance if the cop is scanning more than just you,
from any direction. Since there are still more radar speed sensors in
use than laser sensors (by about 4 to 1)

 From their own installation FAQ:
Keep in mind that snow and dirt that gets on the lens decreases the
output of the BLINDER M-10 TWIN's range to where it may not detect or
jam the police laser gun when you need it.
    Boy, that helps! Especially in the weather in most of the country
this time of year... Time to reroute that intensive washer system...
<laughs>

Some closing thoughts (Freedom Taxes):
    Yesterday, I got a $155 speeding ticket for doing 46 in a 30. I
pulled around a just-stopping local bus (yes, I checked for on-coming
clearance first) and gunned it to minimize the exposure to the oncoming
lane, and about 150 feet from the bus was a nice cluster of motorcycle
cops with their laser guns up and ready. Oppss... The cop who wrote the
ticket claimed he was sure I must have hit 60 or 70, but that I was
decelerating hard by the time he got the gun trained on me and a valid
reading out of it (I started decelerating hard as soon as I got back
into my lane, before I noticed the cops hiding in the bushes).  So, did
I get upset or plea for mercy? Nah. I wasn't even going to try to debate
the fact that although I regularly exceed the speed limits in this
country, I haven't had an at-fault accident in 20 years (none in 20
years, if you discount rear-end collisions where I had been standing
still for over 15 seconds). I just smiled, and said thank you... I'll
just pay my freedom tax and go on with life. I figure if I get a ticket
a year (average) for the speeds I regularly drive, then the freedom tax
is more than worthwhile. The only gripe I have is that the money gets
funneled back into the police coffers -- I would rather see it go
straight to 401(c)(3) charities without any benefit to the local cops.

Cheers!
=-= Marc Glasgow

Chris Chambers wrote:
> I was just reading about the Blinder laserjammer at this website:
>
> http://www.blinder.dk/
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had read about this, or knew more than
> I do...which is very little!
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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