[s-cars] RE: RSB Adapters or "watch your sub-frame stud nuts"

[Mark Strangways]

That didn't take long....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Pastore" <rpastore at animalfeeds.com>
To: <mlped at qwest.net>; "Joseph Pizzimenti" <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: RSB Adapters or "watch your sub-frame stud nuts"


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> JOE:
>
> I'll try to summarize what Mike said:
>
> I've had my both my car and my wife for a long time.   Blame it on lack
> of maintanence or just downright neglect, but I am sorry to report I am
> no longer a stud, I'm retaining water, and my nuts are corroding......I
> told her if she would occasionally put it up in the air for service, it
> would only take 10 or 15 minutes, but she wants no part of it, even with
> the prescribed prophlylactic measures.
>
> So Joey, mi figlio, la famiglia li ha insegnati to watcha u back.  Now u
> gotz to greasa u joints and watcha u sub frame nuts too.
>
> Uncle Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mlp qwest [mailto:mlped at qwest.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:22 PM
> To: Joseph Pizzimenti
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] RE: RSB Adapters or "watch your sub-frame stud nuts"
>
>
> Joe, that's the point.  As far as I am aware there is NO WAY (at least
> no
> simple way) to remove or replace these bolts/studs.  OTOH, they do
> collect
> water in the area inside the sub-frame, around the stud, that the nut
> "seals
> off" when it's bolted up.
>
> My suggestion FWIW, whether one is doing a RSB kit or not, just as an
> occasional prophylactic preventative measure, if you have the car up in
> the
> air for service is to occasionally (say at 60 or 100K) consider pulling
> the
> rear sub frame to chassis nuts off & filling the hole around the stud
> with
> some kind of water displacing / repellant grease or something.
>
> Checking the level of rust &/or corrosion in the stud wells can't take
> but
> 10 - 15 minutes at the most.  It doesn't even really require a lift to
> do.
> As long as the nuts are removed & replaced one at a time, I can't see
> that
> there is even much risk of the sub frame moving involved.  OTOH, others
> on
> the list might have a better suggestion for (a) what to use as a rust
> inhibitor / water repellant; & (b) the risks involved in loosening then
> retightening the sub-frame bolts.
>
> I throw this in the category of otherwise unmentioned &/or undocumented
> &/or
> or otherwise a possibly little known and oft overlooked "maintenance"
> item
> like occasionally changing the "permanent" transmission & differential
> lubricants; occasionally re-greasing the drive shaft U joints etc.
>
> I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to post the "watch your sub-frame
> stud
> nuts" item to the general list in case someone else has something to say
> about the pristine or not condition of their nuts & studs.
>
> mlp
>
> ~-----Original Message-----
> ~From: Joseph Pizzimenti [mailto:pizzoman at yahoo.com]
> ~
> ~Regarding the stud mounts, I guess it would be prudent
> ~to replace the sub frame bolts if oxidized at time of
> ~installation, no?  Anything else to watch out for in
> ~the back?
> ~
> ~Joe
> ~--- mlp qwest <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> ~> Joe -
> ~>
> ~> The mounting concern is with the sub frame bolts, or
> ~> more appropriately I
> ~> suppose you would call them "studs" to which the
> ~> adapters mount.  I believe
> ~> the adapter it self is very strong.
> ~>
> ~> So far as I know, there is no way to remove or
> ~> change these studs to a
> ~> larger bolt/stud.  When you get around to the
> ~> install, I think this will be
> ~> clearer to you.  I'd check the mount to the studs
> ~> frequently.
> ~>
> ~> Mike
> ~>
> ~> ~-----Original Message-----
> ~> ~From: Joseph Pizzimenti [mailto:pizzoman at yahoo.com]
> ~> ~Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:21 PM
> ~> ~To: mlped at qwest.net
> ~> ~Subject: Re: RSB Adapters
> ~> ~
> ~> ~
> ~> ~Thanks much, Mr. P!
> ~> ~I will check out the install procedure when the big
> ~> ~bar gets here and probably bug you accordingly.
> ~> Have
> ~> ~you looked into an improved mounting system that
> ~> will
> ~> ~eliminate any reliability issues you foresee with
> ~> the
> ~> ~"ridiculous, but necessary" 26mm bar?  Since I am
> ~> ~somewhat of a novice at these things, should I just
> ~> ~make sure the bushings are okay from time to time
> ~> or
> ~> ~is there something else to look for?
> ~> ~
> ~> ~Thanks,
> ~> ~Joe
> ~> ~--- mlp qwest <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> ~> ~> Joe & Paul
> ~> ~>
> ~> ~> The adapter kits went in the USPS Priority mail
> ~> ~> Saturday.
> ~> ~> Your tracking #'s are:
> ~> ~>
> ~> ~> 0302 0980 0001 2591 8596
> ~> ~>
> ~> ~> 0302 0980 0001 2591 8572
> ~> ~>
> ~> ~> Please let me know when the arrive or if you have
> ~> ~> any further questions that
> ~> ~> the install CD doesn't address.
> ~> ~>
> ~> ~> Mike Pederson
> ~> ~>
>
>
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