[s-cars] aw, come on, continued

Wed Mar 5 16:59:46 EST 2003

I am sure it isn't causing your problem...

But NAPA has some of the worst batteries...BTDT

Take back the NAPA and get an Interstate..or another reputable brand.

Chris

PS Sure would like to know what is causing your problem..

--- Philip Mische <pmische at comcast.net> wrote:
> As was my fear, it looks like something's still rotten.  The summary
> of
> recent events:
>
> Yesterday morning my 95.5 S6 is running great, but the battery had
> been
> dying for a while so I bought a new one from NAPA.  After I installed
> the
> battery (and hooked up the 2 green connectors under the back seat
> which had
> been disconnected) car runs badly - doesn't snap on accel, misses &
> stumbles
> going up hills, but seems to run ok at WOT.  I've disconnected the 2
> green
> underseat connectors again, disconnected the battery for a time (we
> all do
> this now after years of using Microsoft products) and reconnected it,
> and
> added 2 cans of methanol to be safe from water contamination.  The
> only
> fault code is 4444.  I've done the "output test" for the injectors,
> ISV,
> CCSV, and WGFV, which all clicked like I guess they're supposed to.
>
> Yes I'll get ProDiag, but I love for some lister to have some
> insights so I
> can fix it now.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Phil Mische
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Mische" <pmische at comcast.net>
> To: "S-Car List" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Learning ECU / aw, come on!
>
>
> > This has always been a trippy one for me, and I've never heard this
> about
> > Audis, but as far fetched as it seems there are ECU's that can
> adapt on
> the
> > fly and respond to what they experience.  I know it's true of Subes
> from
> > people who've done Subaru-engine-into-Vanagon engine swaps.  When
> they
> first
> > fire them up they tend to run funky, but over time (weeks) things
> smooth
> > out.  Mmmm, fuzzy logic indeed....
> >
> > That having been said my error codes have cleared and I'm now 4444.
>  My
> > guess is the 4412 code was left over from when I was
> troubleshooting the
> POS
> > problem.  I've now added a few cans of methanol, and the sputtering
> and
> > surging symptoms have diminished.  Could it be the oldest of old -
> a bad
> > load of fuel?  It's still not running like it knows how to make
> power;
> I'll
> > keep you posted if it learns how.
> >
> > Phil Mische
> > 95.5 S6, Hoppen Stage 2, Abt exhaust
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Glasser" <divad at rcn.com>
> > To: "John Mertz" <john.mertz at firstbank-illinois.com>; "'A Ma'"
> > <pwrdrftr at hotmail.com>; <pmische at comcast.net>
> > Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:04 PM
> > Subject: [s-cars] Learning ECU
> >
> >
> > > I'd like to know more about this as well.
> > >
> > > Dave Glasser
> > > 95 Black S6
> > > www.daveglasser.com
> > > Louis, Duke, Bird, Diz, & Trane live on through
> > > the work and efforts of today's jazz musicians.
> > > Please continue to support the future of this great
> > > American art form.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Mertz" <john.mertz at firstbank-illinois.com>
> > > To: "'A Ma'" <pwrdrftr at hotmail.com>; <pmische at comcast.net>
> > > Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:10 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Are you serious?  "learning ecu"?  Where can I learn more about
> this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: A Ma [mailto:pwrdrftr at hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:21 PM
> > > > To: pmische at comcast.net
> > > > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> > > >
> > > > What kind of mods (if any) do you have on the car?
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget that the S4/S6 ECU is a "learning" computer and
> adapts to
> > > your
> > > > driving style. By changing the battery the ECU may have
> reverted to
> the
> > > > stock settings and it may take a few outings to get the car
> running
> the
> > > way
> > > > you remember.
> > > >
> > > > Alvin
> > > > 93S4
> > > >
> > > > >From: Philip Mische <pmische at comcast.net>
> > > > >To: S-Car List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > > >Subject: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> > > > >Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:07:47 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > >--
> > > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > >I know these are complicated cars.  I accept that when I'm
> tweaking
> > > things
> > > > >there are lessons to be learned, and that running lots of
> boost and
> > > making
> > > > >lots of power comes at a price - but this, this is tests my
> patience.
> > > > >
> > > > >I changed the battery - yeah, the lead-acid box under the back
> seat -
> > now
> > > > >it runs like crap!   Whaaaat?  Turns over faster now, and
> idles fine,
> > but
> > > > >something was amiss right away.  Now, when I screw my foot to
> the
> > floor,
> > > > >it's like a wet sponge, just won't get up & go.  It kinda
> wakes up
> > after
> > > a
> > > > >moment, but it's half-hearted about it.  In addition it
> sputters a
> > little
> > > > >at light loads, surges.  I don't think it's going to strand me
> anywhere
> > > > >(famous last words) but something is definitely wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >How might I have offended the gods?
> > > > >
> > > > >Phil Mische
> > > > >95.5 S6
> > > > >
> > > > >PS I did do the POS spare channel swap just a few weeks ago
> after a
> > good
> > > > >solid miss developed, but this condition is nothing like that.
>  Not
> to
> > > say
> > > > >it's not the POS, just that the symptoms are completely
> different.
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93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 91 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-)
73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg

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