[s-cars] aw, come on, continued

Wed Mar 5 22:45:22 EST 2003

Another troubleshooting option...get someone with VAG-COM to look under the
skirt of your ill beauty. Where do you live? Who's nearby that has VAG-COM,
or now also the Shade Tree stuff? If you're within driving distance of
southeastern MA, I'd be happy to help!
-Ian Duff.
-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Philip Mische
Sent: Wednesday, 05 March 2003 19:21
To: S-Car List
Subject: [s-cars] aw, come on, continued

As was my fear, it looks like something's still rotten.  The summary of
recent events:

Yesterday morning my 95.5 S6 is running great, but the battery had been
dying for a while so I bought a new one from NAPA.  After I installed the
battery (and hooked up the 2 green connectors under the back seat which had
been disconnected) car runs badly - doesn't snap on accel, misses & stumbles
going up hills, but seems to run ok at WOT.  I've disconnected the 2 green
underseat connectors again, disconnected the battery for a time (we all do
this now after years of using Microsoft products) and reconnected it, and
added 2 cans of methanol to be safe from water contamination.  The only
fault code is 4444.  I've done the "output test" for the injectors, ISV,
CCSV, and WGFV, which all clicked like I guess they're supposed to.

Yes I'll get ProDiag, but I love for some lister to have some insights so I
can fix it now.

Thanks in advance,

Phil Mische

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Mische" <pmische at comcast.net>
To: "S-Car List" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Learning ECU / aw, come on!

> This has always been a trippy one for me, and I've never heard this about
> Audis, but as far fetched as it seems there are ECU's that can adapt on
the
> fly and respond to what they experience.  I know it's true of Subes from
> people who've done Subaru-engine-into-Vanagon engine swaps.  When they
first
> fire them up they tend to run funky, but over time (weeks) things smooth
> out.  Mmmm, fuzzy logic indeed....
>
> That having been said my error codes have cleared and I'm now 4444.  My
> guess is the 4412 code was left over from when I was troubleshooting the
POS
> problem.  I've now added a few cans of methanol, and the sputtering and
> surging symptoms have diminished.  Could it be the oldest of old - a bad
> load of fuel?  It's still not running like it knows how to make power;
I'll
> keep you posted if it learns how.
>
> Phil Mische
> 95.5 S6, Hoppen Stage 2, Abt exhaust
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Glasser" <divad at rcn.com>
> To: "John Mertz" <john.mertz at firstbank-illinois.com>; "'A Ma'"
> <pwrdrftr at hotmail.com>; <pmische at comcast.net>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:04 PM
> Subject: [s-cars] Learning ECU
>
>
> > I'd like to know more about this as well.
> >
> > Dave Glasser
> > 95 Black S6
> > www.daveglasser.com
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Mertz" <john.mertz at firstbank-illinois.com>
> > To: "'A Ma'" <pwrdrftr at hotmail.com>; <pmische at comcast.net>
> > Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> >
> >
> > > Are you serious?  "learning ecu"?  Where can I learn more about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A Ma [mailto:pwrdrftr at hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:21 PM
> > > To: pmische at comcast.net
> > > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> > >
> > > What kind of mods (if any) do you have on the car?
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the S4/S6 ECU is a "learning" computer and adapts to
> > your
> > > driving style. By changing the battery the ECU may have reverted to
the
> > > stock settings and it may take a few outings to get the car running
the
> > way
> > > you remember.
> > >
> > > Alvin
> > > 93S4
> > >
> > > >From: Philip Mische <pmische at comcast.net>
> > > >To: S-Car List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > >Subject: [s-cars] aw, come on!
> > > >Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:07:47 -0500
> > > >
> > > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > >--
> > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > >I know these are complicated cars.  I accept that when I'm tweaking
> > things
> > > >there are lessons to be learned, and that running lots of boost and
> > making
> > > >lots of power comes at a price - but this, this is tests my patience.
> > > >
> > > >I changed the battery - yeah, the lead-acid box under the back seat -
> now
> > > >it runs like crap!   Whaaaat?  Turns over faster now, and idles fine,
> but
> > > >something was amiss right away.  Now, when I screw my foot to the
> floor,
> > > >it's like a wet sponge, just won't get up & go.  It kinda wakes up
> after
> > a
> > > >moment, but it's half-hearted about it.  In addition it sputters a
> little
> > > >at light loads, surges.  I don't think it's going to strand me
anywhere
> > > >(famous last words) but something is definitely wrong.
> > > >
> > > >How might I have offended the gods?
> > > >
> > > >Phil Mische
> > > >95.5 S6
> > > >
> > > >PS I did do the POS spare channel swap just a few weeks ago after a
> good
> > > >solid miss developed, but this condition is nothing like that.  Not
to
> > say
> > > >it's not the POS, just that the symptoms are completely different.
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