[s-cars] heel-toe driving

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Fri May 2 09:23:09 EDT 2003


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In a message dated 5/2/2003 2:51:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
tedebearp at yahoo.com writes:

>going fast, but you can go much faster, dramatically so.   Soft sprung miss
>piggies can move around that roll center pretty dramatically.   I don't see
>that same correlation with H&T on "fast".

>>you don't need LFB to keep the car settled, though it helps get you
>>a quicker transition between brake/throttle.  it'd help with a turbo
>>car, though i don't know how much of a difference it would make if the
>>car has a bypass valve.

We will disagree on this point forever Teddy (altho a quicker transition
between brake throttle does by definition "keep the car settled").  I've
taught/watched LFB for many years, even to some rather newbies.  I have yet
to find any experience or venue to support your thinking, especially in a
softly sprung badly distributed street car on track.  Personally, I LFB every
frickin turn in any car on any track, turbo or non.  I can think of a handful
of exceptions on specific tracks in specific cars where I don't.   The side
benefit of LFB is keeping the turbo spooled, it has nothing to do with a
bypass valve installed or not (my 83 urq doesn't have one, and my 87 wagon
does, both benefit from LFB the same).  I don't think there is a better way
to decrease lap time.  One of the first questions I ask anyone on the track,
insulting or not.  You don't LFB, the guy that does has a huge time advantage
you need to make up with with equipment.

>>Audi changed pedal location since "unintended acceleration" to
>>make H/T just about impossible without changing the hardware under your
>feet.

>>BTW, i don't have much trouble doing heel-toe in my UrS4, and my
>>feet aren't that big.

Congrats.  Any shoe in particular I should buy? :)

>>>you can add an extension to the gas pedal to make it easier.
>
>My definition of "changing the hardware"

>>>ok, but it's a pretty minor modification.  it can be as simple as buying
>>>a piece of lexan and bolting it to the gas pedal.

It can be as simple as pulling off the gas pedal and bending it in a vice.
BTHeardT.  My definition of "changing the hardware"  Isn't lexan the same
thing as bolting on pedal extensions?  Cheaper maybe, but certainly changing
the hardware.

HTH

SJ







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