[s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping' in traffic

Sun May 4 00:38:17 EDT 2003

I don't know the full story, but I know Dave Flagg.  He's a pretty good guy,
and definately knows his sh!t when it comes to Audis and Audi maintenance.
If it was just about anyone else I'd say, yea, they probably f-'d up, but
these guys really know their stuff.  That isn't to say they didn't f'up, but
in that business your repution is EVERYTHING, and I'd hate to see anyone get
hurt until the true cause of the problem (cause of how the control arm
broke) is discovered.

BTW, what exactly broke?  I was staring at my brand new set of control arms
yesterday and those are pretty beefy pieces!!!!

Also, my advice (and I'm not a lawyer... again, THANK GOD!) is to just claim
this under insurance and if it is discovered that there is fault, they will
go after whoever they can or think might be responsible.  Going after
someone on your own (especially when fault may be hard to prove) is
particularly dangerous and it is illegal to claim insurance AND try to sue
someone for the same incidence.  That is what insurance is for.  Unless you
want to "take someone to the cleaners" (and, I can't imagine any of us
standup S-car listers would want to do that), and all you want is your car
replaced and damages settled, my advice is to just claim under insurance.

Later,
Dan
'95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru)
'87 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (aka "ski bitch")
Seattle, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Myers" <robert at s-cars.org>
To: "David Glasser" <divad at rcn.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>; "CyberPoet"
<thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping' in
traffic

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>
> Ouch!  Dave Flagg?  Dave <DFAUTOHAUS at aol.com> is (Or used to be? Haven't
> seen a post from Dave in quite a while.) a q-list member.
>
> At 10:13 AM 5/3/2003 -0400, David Glasser wrote:
>
> >The shop is a father and son operation in Burlington VT called AutoHaus.
> >
> >I appreciate your advice and am seriously thinking of taking some sort of
> >legal action.
> >
> >Dave Glasser
> >95 Black S6
> >www.daveglasser.com
> >Louis, Duke, Bird, Diz, & Trane live on through
> >the work and efforts of today's jazz musicians.
> >Please continue to support the future of this great
> >American art form.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "CyberPoet" <thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
> >To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >Cc: <divad at rcn.com>
> >Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:59 PM
> >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping'
in
> >traffic
> >
> >
> > > Lower control arms do not simply 'snap', especially under
> > > such a light load. The first bit of advice: Immediately
> > > contact a civil liability attorney specializing in lemon
> > > laws and vehicles, and go after the shop/dealership which
> > > sold you the vehicle. The accident, the damages, the car
> > > and your peace of mind are all worth $$$ and a torte action
> > > is probably the only way that such a facility will feel the
> > > pain enough to not perform such shoddy work again. Do not
> > > attempt to contact the dealership directly in any case
> > > what-so-ever, and if you can't control yourself enough to
> > > do that, tape every conversation with them, with their
> > > attorneys, and make sure you get the adjustors' comments on
> > > tape as well when the car is inspected by the insurance
> > > agency.
> > >
> > > Oh, and please, for the sake of the rest of us, tell us
> > > which shop/dealership you obtained this nightmare from...
> > >
> > > This kind of thing is very unlike Audi's and it needs to be
> > > explained that it is obviously the fault of human error at
> > > the local shop/dealership, and not the type of products the
> > > Audi factory puts forth. Whether the car was in a bad
> > > accident previously, and was not repaired correctly, or if
> > > the parts installed were used and questionable, or if the
> > > repair simply wasn't carried out, either way the full
> > > liability needs to lie with the responsible party.
> > >
> > > Usually I dislike attorneys, but for cases such as this, it
> > > is the only way to make a corporation (such as a
> > > dealership) feel the pain adequately to prevent them from
> > > repeating this kind of carelessness before it actually
> > > kills someone.
> > >
> > > Sorry about your misfortune,
> > > =-= Marc Glasgow
> > > www.cyberpoet.net
> > >
> > > DAVID GLASSER WROTE:
> > >
> > > Last Friday I'm driving to a job at about 4:30pm on the Henry Hudson
> > > Pkwy in
> > > NYC.  Stop and go traffic.  I'm moving about 25 mph in the right lane
> > > when a
> > > van cuts into my lane from the center lane (which was stopped at the
> > > time).
> > > I hit my brakes to slow down (no danger, plenty of time to stop) when
I
> > > hear
> > > a clank and my car suddenly lurches uncontrollably to the left,
> > > scraping the
> > > right front of a blue escort along my two drivers side doors and then
> > > hitting the right front quarter panel of a limo in the left lane with
my
> > > drivers side front quarter panel and scraping along the limo's
> > > passernger
> > > side doors.  Noboby hurt, thank god.  Turns out the passenger side
lower
> > > control arm snapped causing the car to lurch to the left.  I've owned
> > > the
> > > car two months (just received the title in the mail today).  The lower
> > > control arms were supposedly replaced by the dealer I purchased it
from.
> > >
> > > End result is the car is a total loss.  I don't know yet what the
> > > insurance
> > > co. will give me for it.  I have nowhere to keep the car to part it
out
> > > or I
> > > would.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of such a mechanical failure on these cars?  Kind of
> > > scary.  Thank god I wasn't driving 70mph with my pregnant wife or
> > > newborn
> > > son (12 days) in the car.  I'm fighting hard to feel good enough to
> > > purchase
> > > another Audi.  Just though I'd share.  Any BTDT's or advice most
> > > welcome.
> > >
> >
> >
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