[s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm & science

Mon May 5 11:21:46 EDT 2003

David, Sorry to hear of your incident, but very glad that you and your
family are well.
Another thought into the fray...
In a previous life, one of my customers was the Battelle Memeorial Institute
www.battelle.org. They do engineering and design work for every imaginable
industry.  (Food, Military, Automotive,etc.)  Anywho, one of the projects
they worked on was establishing the cause of the failure of the cabin door
that blew off of the 747 departing Hawaii in February of 1989.  They used
electron microscope technology to determine how the crystalline structure of
the metal had failed i.e. from what direction the forces that caused the
failure had come from, whether it was a single blow or if long-term stress
had caused the failure, and even the frequency and amplitude of the forces
causing the failure.  (all this being done, of course, by scientists with
enough letters after their names to win a scrabble tournament)
I wouldn't know where to start with this, that's probably an attorney's job.
I'm just saying that the technology exists to find the root cause of the
failure.  Who pays for it?  I dunno.  I would think that the manufacturer of
the component would want to know if it was their problem, as the next victim
of this failure may not be so fortunate as to escape unscathed.

Dave Burig
Adding my $.02 from Columbus, OH

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of David Glasser
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:35 PM
To: Robert Myers
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping'
in traffic

Yeah,

I'm kind of sorry I mentioned it on the list but I got a bit carried away
with the topic of conversation at the moment.  I liked Dave and Pete a lot
and It's quite possible it was no fault of there's at all.  I still haven't
decided what to do.

Dave Glasser
95 Black S6
www.daveglasser.com
Louis, Duke, Bird, Diz, & Trane live on through
the work and efforts of today's jazz musicians.
Please continue to support the future of this great
American art form.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Myers" <robert at s-cars.org>
To: "David Glasser" <divad at rcn.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>; "CyberPoet"
<thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping' in
traffic

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>
> Ouch!  Dave Flagg?  Dave <DFAUTOHAUS at aol.com> is (Or used to be? Haven't
> seen a post from Dave in quite a while.) a q-list member.
>
> At 10:13 AM 5/3/2003 -0400, David Glasser wrote:
>
> >The shop is a father and son operation in Burlington VT called AutoHaus.
> >
> >I appreciate your advice and am seriously thinking of taking some sort of
> >legal action.
> >
> >Dave Glasser
> >95 Black S6
> >www.daveglasser.com
> >Louis, Duke, Bird, Diz, & Trane live on through
> >the work and efforts of today's jazz musicians.
> >Please continue to support the future of this great
> >American art form.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "CyberPoet" <thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
> >To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >Cc: <divad at rcn.com>
> >Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:59 PM
> >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping'
in
> >traffic
> >
> >
> > > Lower control arms do not simply 'snap', especially under
> > > such a light load. The first bit of advice: Immediately
> > > contact a civil liability attorney specializing in lemon
> > > laws and vehicles, and go after the shop/dealership which
> > > sold you the vehicle. The accident, the damages, the car
> > > and your peace of mind are all worth $$$ and a torte action
> > > is probably the only way that such a facility will feel the
> > > pain enough to not perform such shoddy work again. Do not
> > > attempt to contact the dealership directly in any case
> > > what-so-ever, and if you can't control yourself enough to
> > > do that, tape every conversation with them, with their
> > > attorneys, and make sure you get the adjustors' comments on
> > > tape as well when the car is inspected by the insurance
> > > agency.
> > >
> > > Oh, and please, for the sake of the rest of us, tell us
> > > which shop/dealership you obtained this nightmare from...
> > >
> > > This kind of thing is very unlike Audi's and it needs to be
> > > explained that it is obviously the fault of human error at
> > > the local shop/dealership, and not the type of products the
> > > Audi factory puts forth. Whether the car was in a bad
> > > accident previously, and was not repaired correctly, or if
> > > the parts installed were used and questionable, or if the
> > > repair simply wasn't carried out, either way the full
> > > liability needs to lie with the responsible party.
> > >
> > > Usually I dislike attorneys, but for cases such as this, it
> > > is the only way to make a corporation (such as a
> > > dealership) feel the pain adequately to prevent them from
> > > repeating this kind of carelessness before it actually
> > > kills someone.
> > >
> > > Sorry about your misfortune,
> > > =-= Marc Glasgow
> > > www.cyberpoet.net
> > >
> > > DAVID GLASSER WROTE:
> > >
> > > Last Friday I'm driving to a job at about 4:30pm on the Henry Hudson
> > > Pkwy in
> > > NYC.  Stop and go traffic.  I'm moving about 25 mph in the right lane
> > > when a
> > > van cuts into my lane from the center lane (which was stopped at the
> > > time).
> > > I hit my brakes to slow down (no danger, plenty of time to stop) when
I
> > > hear
> > > a clank and my car suddenly lurches uncontrollably to the left,
> > > scraping the
> > > right front of a blue escort along my two drivers side doors and then
> > > hitting the right front quarter panel of a limo in the left lane with
my
> > > drivers side front quarter panel and scraping along the limo's
> > > passernger
> > > side doors.  Noboby hurt, thank god.  Turns out the passenger side
lower
> > > control arm snapped causing the car to lurch to the left.  I've owned
> > > the
> > > car two months (just received the title in the mail today).  The lower
> > > control arms were supposedly replaced by the dealer I purchased it
from.
> > >
> > > End result is the car is a total loss.  I don't know yet what the
> > > insurance
> > > co. will give me for it.  I have nowhere to keep the car to part it
out
> > > or I
> > > would.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of such a mechanical failure on these cars?  Kind of
> > > scary.  Thank god I wasn't driving 70mph with my pregnant wife or
> > > newborn
> > > son (12 days) in the car.  I'm fighting hard to feel good enough to
> > > purchase
> > > another Audi.  Just though I'd share.  Any BTDT's or advice most
> > > welcome.
> > >
> >
> >
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