[s-cars] Re: Squealing A-M on miss piggy

[Rich Dauenhauer]

Scott, unbeliveable?
read the posts again...its a simple matter of
perspective. My perspecticve is that of a consumer,
someone who in my case dosnt live and and breathe
brake pads, lithium grease and dust boots. My
expectation is I can buy a product that ...again in
KIT form... is supposed to be engineered for an
application. I dont know F**k All, about backing plate
dimensional differances, or evan that the Textar is
the OEM pad, I choose to limit my knowledge in this
area because, honestly Im relying on others (experts
like you or ECS) to have already done that heavy
lifting ahead of me.
One very good reason I participate on this list.

Your perspective on the otherhand appears to come from
being a servicing dealer.

 "Anyone could have *asked* about this problem and
got and gotten the same response from me, and anyone
that services their Big Reds in my shop knows well my
feelings on A-M pads for Big Reds"

What good does that do me!! I wasnt dealing with you I
was dealing with Tom at ECS thus my Post.
And yes I did do a fair bit of Archive snooping before
I bought. Didnt find the Textars vs Mintex in BR
thread though.

Flame ON

R.


--- QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:
> Rich:
> I stand by my statement, per your own post below.
> IME, aftermarket pads rarely carry the same
> production tolerances of the factory textars. FOR
> example. Just the thickness of the backing
> plates... I have measured "variances" of more than >
1.5mm on the backing plate alone!  Add in the
> factory "shim" and the pads may not sit far enough >
back in the caliper.  I have measured tolerances in >
excess of 3mm in just pad thickness vs the factory >
Textar as well.  In fact, somewhere in the
> archives, I posted my findings on 3 or 4 sets of
> aftermarket pads for the Textars (a main qlist post
> where caliper piston travel was being
> calculated by MGW if memory serves). I can say
> I've also had the pleasure of grinding out of spec >
stampings of backing plates just to get them to
> fit. I can well imagine and predict that, if the
> backing
> plate and pad thickness are variances, then quite
> possibly the metallic cocktail could very well be a
> problem too.
>
> So, my proposed SOLUTION is to put a known entity
> back in the caliper. Trying to affix blame to ECS
> *IS* premature and unwarranted IMO. IF you accept
> aftermarket pads, then you accept the above issues,
> including the resultant squeal. ANYONE could have
> *asked* about this problem and gotten the same
> response from me, and anyone that services their
> Big Reds in my shop knows well my feelings on A-M
> pads for Big Reds.
>
> A proactive approach is to buy the textars, and then
> give feedback to ECS that stock pads should be the >
ones supplied in the kit. Then again, expect to
> pay a bit of a premium, as IME, the textars tend to
> be higher priced vs the aftermarkets. Full circle, >
I sure hope that doesn't generate posts on price...
>
> Sorry, I just find this unbelievable, and it just
> might show.
>
> For THIS very reason, I won't put in any other pad
> with my Big Red installs, than the factory Textar.
>
> Scott Justusson
> QSHIPQ Performance Tuning
> 83 Urq mit big Reds, never a squeal = textars



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