[s-cars] snow tires

[Chad Clark]

Kirby, I have used the Yoko brand for the last 4 years and will insist that 
they are a great value tire for the $$. Starting with the 600, good bite in 
ice and snow, deep stuff(pushing *light* snow over the hood type)not a 
problem. Then came the F720, better ice traction, still good in the deep 
stuff. Now the new item, the I series. Haven't tried them. I too have liked 
them for their multicellular compound/nylon stud marketing and long lasting 
tread pattern.

Will also agree with you and Scott that the Hakka Q's still rule though. 
Pretty unbeatable tire for all conditions, especially ice. You get what you 
pay for eh?

Chad Clark


>From: Kirby Smith <kirby.a.smith at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net
>To: QSHIPQ at aol.com
>CC: s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] snow tires
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0500
>
>As a point of curiosity, Scott, have you ever compared the [Yoko]
>Guardex 600s to Blizzaks.  Like the Blizzaks, the Guardex tread blocks
>are microcellular foam.  Unlike the Blizzaks, they are [supposedly] foam
>all the way down, and reinforced with nylon fiber, with claims of having
>micro studs.  At a minimum this provides significant life extension.
>Anyway, I've used them for some time on my 90q, and they work well on
>ice and hardpack.
>
>When the snow is falling though, I use my S6 with the Q's.
>
>kirby
>
>
>QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Agree Kirby, those molding nubs make the Q's a bit squirrelly when new.  
>When
> > I hauled the brand new Blizzack WS50's to Steamboat last year, the track 
>boys
> > mentioned the same thing about the BX too.  They said they perform best 
>at
> > 200mi>.  WRT Q's vs NRW's, it's "sipe" vs "tread".  The Q's advantage is 
>the
> > Blizzack type sipe (the razor cuts in the tread to increase grip), the 
>NRW
> > advantage is strictly tread.  I ran both the Q's and the NRW's at 
>Steamboat, IME/O
> > the Q's rule, and are as close as you can get to the awesome traction of 
>the
> > BX, with a better mileage life.
> >
> > We ran the Q's on the S2 Rally car before they were officially 
>introduced a
> > few years ago, and the all around usefulness of that tire was impressive 
>(snow,
> > gravel, ice, water).  Blizzacks still rule the ice tho, I just wish the
> > sidewall was stiffer.  I'm a big fan of the P210 as a all around winter 
>tire with a
> > great stiff sidewall. There are better tires in any specific evaluation,
> > tough to beat overall.
> >
> > Scott Justusson
> > 205/60 Q's on 15x7 Fuchs - Winter driving
> > 205/60 WS50s on 15x7 Fuchs - in da trunk to steamboat
> > 195/65 P210 on 15x6
> > 205/60 P210 on 15x7
> >
> > Previous Steamboat tire tests, posted to lists, in respective order (and 
>IMO,
> > preference):
> > WS50 Blizzacks
> > Hakka Q's
> > Pirelli Winter P210
> > Hakka NRW
> > Hakka 10's
> > Michilen artic Alpins
> >
> > In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:14:12 PM Central Standard Time,
> > kirby.a.smith at verizon.net writes:
> > P.S.  Don't evaluate the Q's handling until you have worn off the mold
> > sprues (nipples) that are present on each of the 2200 sipes.  Until then
> > the driving is a bit "hairy."
> >
> > :)
> >
> > kirby
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