[s-cars] snow tires

[The Gagnons]

I just got some hakka 2's with eco studs.  I live in the northeast which is
prone to ice storms and I have a 900 foot long driveway.  I also go skiing
most weekends and snow and ice is all the more reason not to drive two or
more hours to have some fun.  I will report back on noise and grip once I
get them put on.  I had a set of Yoko guardex 720's in the past and they
were decent, way better than aarctic alpine's and better than nrw's

Jack

> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Chad Clark
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:12 PM
> To: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net; QSHIPQ at aol.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] snow tires
>
>
> Kirby, I have used the Yoko brand for the last 4 years and will
> insist that
> they are a great value tire for the $$. Starting with the 600,
> good bite in
> ice and snow, deep stuff(pushing *light* snow over the hood type)not a
> problem. Then came the F720, better ice traction, still good in the deep
> stuff. Now the new item, the I series. Haven't tried them. I too
> have liked
> them for their multicellular compound/nylon stud marketing and
> long lasting
> tread pattern.
>
> Will also agree with you and Scott that the Hakka Q's still rule though.
> Pretty unbeatable tire for all conditions, especially ice. You
> get what you
> pay for eh?
>
> Chad Clark
>
>
> >From: Kirby Smith <kirby.a.smith at verizon.net>
> >Reply-To: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net
> >To: QSHIPQ at aol.com
> >CC: s-car-list at audifans.com
> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] snow tires
> >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0500
> >
> >As a point of curiosity, Scott, have you ever compared the [Yoko]
> >Guardex 600s to Blizzaks.  Like the Blizzaks, the Guardex tread blocks
> >are microcellular foam.  Unlike the Blizzaks, they are [supposedly] foam
> >all the way down, and reinforced with nylon fiber, with claims of having
> >micro studs.  At a minimum this provides significant life extension.
> >Anyway, I've used them for some time on my 90q, and they work well on
> >ice and hardpack.
> >
> >When the snow is falling though, I use my S6 with the Q's.
> >
> >kirby
> >
> >
> >QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Agree Kirby, those molding nubs make the Q's a bit squirrelly
> when new.
> >When
> > > I hauled the brand new Blizzack WS50's to Steamboat last
> year, the track
> >boys
> > > mentioned the same thing about the BX too.  They said they
> perform best
> >at
> > > 200mi>.  WRT Q's vs NRW's, it's "sipe" vs "tread".  The Q's
> advantage is
> >the
> > > Blizzack type sipe (the razor cuts in the tread to increase
> grip), the
> >NRW
> > > advantage is strictly tread.  I ran both the Q's and the NRW's at
> >Steamboat, IME/O
> > > the Q's rule, and are as close as you can get to the awesome
> traction of
> >the
> > > BX, with a better mileage life.
> > >
> > > We ran the Q's on the S2 Rally car before they were officially
> >introduced a
> > > few years ago, and the all around usefulness of that tire was
> impressive
> >(snow,
> > > gravel, ice, water).  Blizzacks still rule the ice tho, I
> just wish the
> > > sidewall was stiffer.  I'm a big fan of the P210 as a all
> around winter
> >tire with a
> > > great stiff sidewall. There are better tires in any specific
> evaluation,
> > > tough to beat overall.
> > >
> > > Scott Justusson
> > > 205/60 Q's on 15x7 Fuchs - Winter driving
> > > 205/60 WS50s on 15x7 Fuchs - in da trunk to steamboat
> > > 195/65 P210 on 15x6
> > > 205/60 P210 on 15x7
> > >
> > > Previous Steamboat tire tests, posted to lists, in respective
> order (and
> >IMO,
> > > preference):
> > > WS50 Blizzacks
> > > Hakka Q's
> > > Pirelli Winter P210
> > > Hakka NRW
> > > Hakka 10's
> > > Michilen artic Alpins
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:14:12 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > kirby.a.smith at verizon.net writes:
> > > P.S.  Don't evaluate the Q's handling until you have worn off the mold
> > > sprues (nipples) that are present on each of the 2200 sipes.
> Until then
> > > the driving is a bit "hairy."
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > kirby
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