[s-cars] RE: Confessions of indiscretions

[Fabryce]

Scott

I have to agree with you.........
We have a later a4Q1.8 and 2001 Grand Am S4 Gs2 car. And belive me it takes
allot to make those things go around the track at any given rate.

Fabryce Kutyba
Hartmann  Motorsports
www.hartmann-motorsports.com
949-475-2500
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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:42 AM
Subject: [s-cars] RE: Confessions of indiscretions


> It's all just money.  Miss Piggy, no matter how tweeked, will get passed
by
> much lesser cars, in price and HP.  I've gone thru this with several S car
> customers.  The reality of tracking an S car is, to make it even "fun" you
take
> the "family sedan" further from the equation.  When you say it's "more of
a
> track car" Robert, that is AT the expense of it's street car strengths.
When you
> do this formula, even with 10 track events a year (that's a LOT), why are
you
> taking from it's excellent 95% fit for use to make that happen?  When you
add
> up all the toys, then take it to the track, the risk of NET -0- (that's
> totalling out the armco) gets higher and higher.  Don't forget to add
insult to
> injury, tracks charge you for the armco repair too...
>
> A "different" car can be a 5000tq prepped for the price of those F/R big
> reds.  More than a few of us have come to that realization:  Scott J has
one in
> his shop (2700lbs), Scott M has one in his shop, Bob D (LT1Q was
"different") is
> prepping one right now....  Different, is buying, strippping, and caging a
> 4kq, and LEARNING how to drive a quattro.
>
> I too find the motorcycle to be the best bang for buck, it's the only
vehicle
> I take to the quarter mile track.  I rarely do the superbike track schools
> anymore, too many crazies with bad habits and leaking oil...  But I do
regularly
> take my tired old 83 urq, and chase down massively tweeked S cars at QC
track
> events, and then come winter, with only a change of wheels and tires, rip
up
> Steamboat snow and ice.
>
>  I've watched for over 10 years, as the wrestlers of Miss Piggy, throw
race
> car money at a vehicle that is "different", most coming to the more
rational
> conclusion that it's the wrong animal all together for the environment.
Not to
> put myself out of business.  But I know exactly what the invoices are to
keep
> miss piggy in battle dress.  S cars are great street cars.  S cars will
NEVER
> be a great track car, period.
>
> I watch in awe sometimes at what some folks are doing to their cars, to
make
> miss piggy "better".  I only occasionally see those folks at a track
(Keith
> Maddock specifically excluded).  When I do, more often than not, it's my
opinion
> that the money spent on tweeking the animal, might have well been better
> spent on training the handler.
>
> My .02
>
> Scott Justusson
>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/2003 10:22:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
> RCaro900SS at aol.com writes:
> Scott,
>
> I track Ms Piggy because I like having fun with a vehicle that is
different.
> The only track events that I see another S6 at are Audi events.  It is fun
to
> pass dedicated track cars and sports cars at the track with a family
sedan,
> althought this car has become less of a street car and more of a track car
as
> the years have gone by.  I also run motorcycles at some of the same
tracks,
> and
> this is the least expensive way to go fast.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
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