[s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question

[Igor Kessel]

Daniel Hussey wrote:

> Hey seriously...  I'd like to know more on this too.
>
> I currently have Comcast Cable internet (previously AT&T Broadband), but
> they have been pissing me off and jacked up the rates to $55.95 + tax per
> month!!!!  I think DSL is way cheaper, but heard download times are
> typically slower.  Biggest reason I haven't switched to DSL is because I
> need a hard phone line.  I currently use my cell phone for everything.  A
> hard phone line will cost me $25 a month which kinda negates the extra
> savings.
>
> I dunno.  The cable company said they would add cable service for TV for $7
> a month, but they give you like NO channles with that...  you have to get
> what they call "expanded cable" to get any of the good channels (and, these
> are still commercial channels, mind you) and that will cost me $26 a
> month!!!  I told them to f^&#* off, and so I am getting Dish Network for the
> same price.
>
> Later,
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Landaeta" <landaeta1 at comcast.net>
> To: "Steve Marinello" <smarinello at charter.net>; <robert at s-cars.org>; "Brian
> Powell" <brian at atomicham.com>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question
>
>
>
>>interesting, sounds like some 'you get what you pay for' My cable service
>
> is
>
>>NOT cheap, with digital TV cable and internet, I'm at about $108. But in
>
> my
>
>>densly populated area, I have no significant outages (maybe 1-2 per year
>
> of
>
>>less than 4 hour duration) and the network upgrades of cable head-ends
>
> along
>
>>with proper load balancing may be why I see good service, not affected by
>>time of day/day of week.
>>
>>There's a place for cheap, but it's not internet for me, just too damn
>>addicted...
>>Doug L
>>94 S4
>>Cable internet since 1996
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
>>[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Steve Marinello
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:33 PM
>>To: robert at s-cars.org; Brian Powell
>>Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question
>>
>>
>>FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact opposite.  DSL
>
> at
>
>>a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns.  Charter.net cable at
>>nowhere near that speed and ALWAYS slower in the evenings and weekends.
>>Outages with way too many medium-size thunderstorms and every major
>
> tropical
>
>>storm-type system, and they may last for days.  The last two, a few weeks
>>apart, lasted nearly 3 and 4 days.  Totally unacceptable.  I've
>
> recommended
>
>>to Bob to check the offered speed and guarantee.  No comparison, in my
>>experience and those of my neighbors and professional colleagues in the
>>area.
>>
>>I only got cable because telocity/directvinternet shut down their DSL
>>service and Charter offered a "too  cheap to pass up" deal with a
>>performance guarantee that seemed decent.  Just not in the real world and
>>thunderstorm activity isn't covered.  I only keep it 'cause in the cable
>>package it's costing me under $20/month.
>>
>>Steve
>>(BellSouth DSL now, but I've still got to get around to changing
>>subscription addresses...sometime)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brian Powell" <brian at atomicham.com>
>>To: <robert at s-cars.org>
>>Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM
>>Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question
>>
>>
>>
>>>I had DSL for over a year.  I've had cable for almost 3 years.  No
>>>comparison: cable is far superior.
>>>
>>>I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky.
>>>
>>>The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS.  Comcast guarantees
>>>(and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream.  Where that mantra
>>>came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth
>>>that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot
>>>of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will
>>>still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections).
>>>Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and
>>>vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that.
>>>Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe
>>>384kbps up).
>>>
>>>My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and
>>>AT&T had to switch us over).  BTW, my home phone is over the cable as
>>>well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house.
>>>
>>>Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter
>>>yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog
>>>cable whether I subscribe or not...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Brian

I had Comcast cable for a while. The service was good but $62/mo was a
sheer lunacy.
As soon as Verizon DSL came along at $30 I dropped the cable. So far so
good.
I've seen 1.5 mbits downstream with both.

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Igor Kessel
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