[s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+

Sun Sep 7 11:25:51 EDT 2003

I have little comparative knowledge about what tires are out there.  But
for Vancouver BC - wet, dry and snow in the mountains - I have found from
experience that the Dunlop Sport A2 work just fine in all three
conditions.  Quiet on the highway at relatively high speeds (160 kmph),
hold corners excellent in rain, and I was able to pull through snow that a
4X4 got stuck in (but thay might have been the driver).

At 03:28 AM 9/7/2003 -0700, Daniel Hussey wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>I live in the great Northwest as well, but am a transplant from the midwest.
>I can tell you with a certainty, that there is no such thing as a
>ultra-performance tire that is also a snow tire.  Best advice I can give you
>is to get a set of snows (I reccomend the Pirelli Winter 210 Assymetrics)
>and leave them on for the season if you are crossing the passes often.
>
>A good rain-shedding summer tire is what I am looking for.  I won't be
>taking the 944 S2 up to the mountains, so it isn't even a concern of mine.
>But wet traction and hydroplane resistance is a HUGE factor, living in
>Seattle.
>
>Later,
>Dan
>'95 S6 Avant (gone, but not forgotten)
>'89 944 S2 (new toy)
>'87 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (aka "Ski Bitch")
>Seattle, WA
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Sevel" <jeffsevel at hotmail.com>
>To: <danh at s-cars.org>; <kpruden at speakeasy.net>
>Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > In defense of Kris (and no offense BTW), I believe I was the one who
> > initially started this thread. I was just looking for some feedback on the
> > Sumitomo HTR+. Frankly, I dont want to compare OEM tires the new
> > best-of-breed summer tires either. My summers are heading for the garage
>for
> > a long winters nap.
> >
> > Getting back to my original post, I dont want to spend big $ on Michelin
>or
> > equivalents. I need an all season, ultra high performance tire that will
> > also, once a week, handle the snowy passes of the Northwest and high speed
> > trips to Whistler/Blackcomb. The Sumi HTR+ has some of the highest ratings
> > for snow (in the ultra high perf category) and would love to hear the
> > experiences of others.
> >
> > Danke sehr,
> >
> > Jeff
> > 95.5 S6
> > Seattle, WA USA
> >
> > >From: "Daniel Hussey" <danh at s-cars.org>
> > >To: "Kris Pruden" <kpruden at speakeasy.net>
> > >CC: "Jeff Sevel" <jeffsevel at hotmail.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+
> > >Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0700
> > >
> > >Kris,
> > >
> > >Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, really I mean that...  I am
> > >SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance tires to thier OEM crap
> > >tires.  Tell me something I don't know!!!  Of course your new tires are
> > >going to be a huge improvement over your SP2000E's or 8000E's or Michelin
> > >MXV4's...  But, someone give me some info on how they compare to a
>Firehawk
> > >SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS Sport.
> > >
> > >Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade through everyone on Tire
>Rack's
> > >reviews site comparing thier tires to thier balding OE Goodyear
>Gatorbacks
> > >on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier evaluation is rendered useless
> > >as
> > >they have no stance for comparison.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Kris Pruden" <kpruden at speakeasy.net>
> > >To: "Daniel Hussey" <danh at s-cars.org>
> > >Cc: "Jeff Sevel" <jeffsevel at hotmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+
> > >
> > >
> > > > Daniel Hussey wrote:
> > > > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as
> > >far
> > >as
> > > > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued.  This was the advanced
> > > > > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding
>and
> > > > > hydroplane resistance).  Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole
> > >Positions
> > > > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)...
> > > >
> > > > These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position.  I have a set on
>my
> > > > Miata, and I am *very* happy with them.  Excellent grip, amazing wet
> > > > performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on
>before.
> > > >
> > > > Kris
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What are the good choises now???  I'm looking at the Bridgestone
> > >Potenza
> > > > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's.  Anyone have experiences
>with
> > > > > these???  These are actually for a Porsche.
> > > > >
> > > > > Later,
> > > > > Dan
> > > > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru)
> > > > > Seattle, WA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jeff Sevel" <jeffsevel at hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM
> > > > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti
> > >ExtremeContact
> > > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > >>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid
> > >all
> > > > >>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good
> > >handling
> > > > >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the
> > >Sumis
> > > > >
> > > > > are
> > > > >
> > > > >>a good alternative.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>THanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Jeff
> > > > >>95.5 S6
> > > > >>Seattle WA
> > > > >>
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Ron Einblau
93 S4
Vancouver, B.C.