And you start feeling dizzy and short of breathe after only 5 minutes of driving! On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:25:34 -0800, Gabriel Caldwell <gabriel at ts.bc.ca> wrote: > Forget that noise. *MY* car has a heated shifter. I routed a little > tube from the cat to the shifter housing. Warms up quick! > > Gabriel Caldwell >