[s-cars] Re: Suspension Upgrade

tony.curran at sympatico.ca tony.curran at sympatico.ca
Fri Dec 17 13:09:52 EST 2004


Hi Noah,

Just wondering if you had the right springs or not. My car dropped all of 20mm. My car still has a bit of a gap between the tire and arch. I don't recall having bottomed out on anything. 

Tony
96 S6

> 
> From: "Noah" <noahgodwin at earthlink.net>
> Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 12:34:53 EST
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>,  "Larry C Leung" <l.leung at juno.com>
> CC: evan.desjardins at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: Suspension Upgrade
> 
> My impressions of Bilstein Sport / Eibach +20mm spacer:
> 
> I am sorely tempted to go back to my stock 92 springs and see if the HSRB 
> will take care of the roll. When I first put the BS/E combo on, sans spacer, 
> I was very happy with the ride, but the ass sat too low. As in, scraping 
> EVERYTHING I go over... EVERYTHING. So, I install the 20mm spacer from ECS 
> and the ride height is spot on, but now I still have two complaints. 1) The 
> change in the rear height moved some weight to the front of the car, and the 
> front end feels worse now. I resented the fact that I would need to purchase 
> a spacer to make the product work in the first place, and now that I have it 
> installed and the ride suffered, I am even more annoyed. 2) The car is still 
> way too low. I will scrape on any burly speedbump I try to go over. The 
> other day I had two passengers on the rear, and I actually scraped going 
> over a manhole in a recently repaved section of road. A MANHOLE for 
> chrissake!
> 
> My stock springs are going back on. I'd love to sell these Eibach springs to 
> one of you guys. They have been on for ~6months.
> 
> As for H&Rs, I bet they are better. I had the red (race) H&Rs on my 5kcstq 
> and I loved them. They had a very balanced ride, and for whatever reason 
> they didn't seem to cause me to scrape going over every little thing. 
> Another data point, with my red H&Rs I ran the boge turbogas, and they were 
> a perfect match.... even though one would think they would be too stiff for 
> the cheap little BTGs to handle.
> 
> My advice: Put the stuff on one piece at a time. I skipped putting on just 
> struts, and I think that's how I screwed up. Now, to find out if I would 
> prefer it that way, I'll haveto take everything apart again and take a lot 
> more time that if I had done it that way first.
> 
> -Noah
> YMMV and my car is a '92 so my springs don't totally suck.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry C Leung" <l.leung at juno.com>
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Cc: <evan.desjardins at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:59 AM
> Subject: [s-cars] Re: Suspension Upgrade
> 
> 
> > Evan,
> >
> > I'm running Eibach/Bilstein (shox.com) WITH rear spacer (make sure
> > you get those or the back will sag). Overall ride quality is VERY similar
> > to stock, SLIGHTLY less roll, but best of all, the damping rates of the
> > Bilsteins matches nearly perfectly with the Eibachs. H+R's are stiffer,
> > so,
> > like my 200Q, which is H+R/Bilstein, I'd expect that the off the shelf
> > Bilsteins would be underdamped with the H+R's. I do believe that you
> > can get custom shock valving from Bilsteins (it's, as I recall, only
> > $35/shock),
> > but I have NO idea what valving you should have if you go the H+R route.
> > BTW, I ultimately will go HRSB to get rid of the roll and gain a little
> > turn-in.
> >
> > LL - NY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:24:44 -0500
> >> From: Evan Desjardins <evan.desjardins at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [s-cars] Suspension Upgrade
> >> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> >> Message-ID: <457542d404121608246cd94191 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >>
> >> S-Fiends,
> >>
> >> Well, I think the time has come to take another slide down the
> >> slippery slope.  My rear passenger quarter is doing a lot of
> >> "thunka-thunka-clunka-clunka" over bumps so it's time to take the
> >> plunge and get a sport suspension.
> >>
> >> I've been looking at ECS Tuning and they have a package with H&R
> >> Sport
> >> Springs & Bilstein Sport Shocks for $769.95.  I also need to
> >> purchase
> >> the camber plates to correct the alignment for $239.95.
> >>
> >> I guess I have several questions about this upgrade.  Is this all
> >> that
> >> I need?  Has anyone had good luck with a setup like this, or would
> >> you
> >> recommend something else?  Finally, is this a good price or is it
> >> possible to put less money into Miss Piggy Bank for these parts?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your wisdom and insanity!
> >>
> >> Evan
> >> '95 //S6
> >>
> >>
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