[s-cars] Alternatives to RS2 Injectors

[Robin Stoddard]

> Was the disaster in question a new injector?
It was a new injector; put in when the car was rebuilt in 1998.

> How did its failure torch the car?
What happened; while my parents were driving through the Home Depot parking
lot in Kelowna BC, they heard a very large bang.  The sound was loud enough
that they thought that they were rear-ended.  About a minute later, my
mother said "is that smoke coming from the hood (front)?", my father's
response "nope, that's fire!".  The fire was contained to the engine bay, as
the fire department arrived pretty quickly.  The car was still written off
though.

During the investigation, the mechanic found that an injector was flawed and
that there was a weak spot (in the housing I assume) that blew out.  When
the casing failed (the loud bang), the result was fuel started to spray all
over the place.  They assumed that a spark ignited the fuel and the rest is
history.  The spark could have come from any number of sources under the
hood.  The injector (& Car) worked just fine from the time when the car was
rebuilt in 98' until the fire four years later.

Cheers
RS


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Stoddard" <rstoddard at shaw.ca>
To: "Mihnea Cotet" <mik at info.fundp.ac.be>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; "Dave Forgie" <forgied at ae.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Alternatives to RS2 Injectors


> Not that I can support nor deny the numbers that have been thrown
> around, but my interest ended the moment you mentioned Lucas.  Don't
> walk, but run away from anything that has the Lucas name stamped on it.
> Personal experience 2 years ago when a Lucas injector failed on my
> fathers rebuilt 1978 Jag that caused an engine fire and the death of the
> car.
>
> RS
>
> Mihnea Cotet wrote:
>
> > Dave, you must be mistaken, RS2 injectors are 354cc/min at 3 Bar rail
> > pressure. 44lb or 48 is way too big and I'd only recommend such
> > injectors for 450+ real and crank HP.
> >
> > 12 ohm injectors are ok for the stock ECU, but I'd rather recommend
> > you Lucas 37lb/hr injectors if you're after RS2 power levels.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Mihnea
> >
> > At 14:11 20/02/2004 -0700, Dave Forgie wrote:
> >
> >> S-gruppees, and Pizzo:  A group of us in Vancouver are at the edge of
> >> the slippery slope and are in on the RS2 GP.  Naturally, we need all
> >> the other bits that go with it.  We have split up the
> >> searching/procurement duties and one of mine is to find a cheaper
> >> source/alternative for the RS2 Bosch injectors.  We understand that
> >> these injectors are 444 cc/min (about 42 lb/hr)  and were the same as
> >> those instand OEM in a "911" Carrera.  One aftermarket "dealer" has
> >> quoted me $185 CDN for one such injector (I don't think so, Tim).  So
> >> I went out at lunch to a local Camarustang Speed shop where they have
> >> a really cool Turbonetics catalogue (but that's another story) and
> >> ACCEL (tm) fuel injectors.  They list a series of injectors for the
> >> 993 Carrera turbo.  For a 48 lb/hr set of six (150648), I have been
> >> quoted $463 CDN.  For a single 150144 (44 lb/hr) injector I have been
> >> quoted $65 CDN each.   Both of these ones seem to be 12 ohms
> >> impedance (whereas others seem to be 14.4 Ohms).  So three questions:
> >>
> >> 1.  Should I continue to pursue this Accel option?
> >> 2.  Will 12 Ohm injectors be okay?
> >> 3.  Which of the two options, 44 lb/hr or 48 lb/hr is "better"
> >> (whatever that is)?
> >>
> >> Dave F.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> S-CAR-List mailing list
> >> S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> >> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > S-CAR-List mailing list
> > S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> S-CAR-List mailing list
> S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list