[s-cars] FMIC Alternatives - ROT thoughts

[Bruce Mendel]

For a less expensive and intrusive alternative, check out water injection.
No pressure loss like an intercooler, and if sized properly, dramatically
reduces intake temps. Very little plumbing, easily removable, and costs
around $650.

I ran the Aquamist system on my '93 S$ full RS2 + Stromung at many track
events, and the difference with and without water injection running was
dramatic. If the washer fluid reservoir ran dry mid-session, the car would
revert to its heat soaked self, noticeably slower (1.5-2 seconds per lap at
Watkins Glen) and less eager to go fast.

Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Theodore Chen" <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
To: "Lewis, Gary M" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] FMIC Alternatives - ROT thoughts


>
> --- "Lewis, Gary M" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What's the point of developing a perfect $2,000 intercooler
> > > if everyone who wants one thinks they can copy it for $500;
> > > or feels they're getting ripped off if they're charged $2k?
> >
> > I did speak to ASW about what they were doing, and it sounds like a
really
> > nice set-up.  I don't think $2,000 is a rip-off for their product as
offered.
> >  I just don't have it.  Nor am I stating I will build something as good
as
> > what they have.  I do believe it will be volumes above stock.
>
> that reflects my thinking as well.  i don't want to spend $2k on an
> intercooler for the car.  i don't need to extract every ounce of power
> from this car.  i still have the stock K24 turbo, with MTM II+ chip and
> RS2 EM.  i just want to get better IC performance so the car won't pull
> timing and boost as much.
>
> > Question tho'.  If I pull this off, it sounds as if it will piss off a
few of
> > the CO. contingent.  Should I take it off-line??  Seems like every time
I
> > bring this up it pisses someone off...
>
> please don't take it off-line.  several of us do want to know what you
> come up with.  the CO contingent's position is basically that you can't
> really do it for much less than $2k for any kind of custom FMIC, so you
> might as well as pay $2k for the good one.  i'm not convinced that you
> can't come up with something substantially better than stock for
substantially
> less.
>
> i'm not sure how it happened, but my question about what was involved
> in building an intercooler seems to have been interpreted as an attack on
> the people who spent $2k+ on theirs.  it was just a question.  it seems
> like taking two stock intercoolers and welding them together may be the
> most cost-effective solution, at least until we see what you've got.
>
> -teddy
>
>
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