[s-cars] FMIC Alternatives - ROT thoughts

[Lewis, Gary M]

Yes and no.  Solves the heat problem VERY NICELY, but doesn't produce more mass.

I'm more interested in lowering boost thresholds through pressure improvements.  The cooler air due to increased IC size is a nice benefit.

Then turn up the boost some more.

Rinse and repeat.

WI is GREAT when you have reached the end of the rinse and repeat cycle, or, you have bad gas, or live in a hot area.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Pizzimenti [mailto:pizzoman at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:32 PM
> To: Theodore Chen; Lewis, Gary M; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] FMIC Alternatives - ROT thoughts 
> 
> 
> OR we can forego all this pressure drop nonsense and
> go with a well engineered water injection system for
> less than half the price of a CO intercooler...
> 
> Bruce, wanna chime in here, waterboy?
> 
> 
> --- Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > --- "Lewis, Gary M" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com>
> > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > What's the point of developing a perfect $2,000
> > intercooler
> > > > if everyone who wants one thinks they can copy
> > it for $500;
> > > > or feels they're getting ripped off if they're
> > charged $2k?
> > > 
> > > I did speak to ASW about what they were doing, and
> > it sounds like a really
> > > nice set-up.  I don't think $2,000 is a rip-off
> > for their product as offered.
> > >  I just don't have it.  Nor am I stating I will
> > build something as good as
> > > what they have.  I do believe it will be volumes
> > above stock.
> > 
> > that reflects my thinking as well.  i don't want to
> > spend $2k on an
> > intercooler for the car.  i don't need to extract
> > every ounce of power
> > from this car.  i still have the stock K24 turbo,
> > with MTM II+ chip and
> > RS2 EM.  i just want to get better IC performance so
> > the car won't pull
> > timing and boost as much.
> > 
> > > Question tho'.  If I pull this off, it sounds as
> > if it will piss off a few of
> > > the CO. contingent.  Should I take it off-line??
> > Seems like every time I
> > > bring this up it pisses someone off...
> > 
> > please don't take it off-line.  several of us do
> > want to know what you
> > come up with.  the CO contingent's position is
> > basically that you can't
> > really do it for much less than $2k for any kind of
> > custom FMIC, so you
> > might as well as pay $2k for the good one.  i'm not
> > convinced that you
> > can't come up with something substantially better
> > than stock for substantially
> > less.
> > 
> > i'm not sure how it happened, but my question about
> > what was involved
> > in building an intercooler seems to have been
> > interpreted as an attack on 
> > the people who spent $2k+ on theirs.  it was just a
> > question.  it seems
> > like taking two stock intercoolers and welding them
> > together may be the
> > most cost-effective solution, at least until we see
> > what you've got.
> > 
> > -teddy
> > 
> > 
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