[s-cars] FMIC Alternatives, try the stock one.

[Theodore Chen]

trevor,

i can't quite tell from the pictures, but did you keep the AC condenser?

that IC is huge.  it requires more than just a minor bumper notching.
looks like the IC is sticking out the top of the bumper.  i couldn't
find a picture of the finished car, though.

so do you find the IC adequate in a track session?

-teddy

--- Trevor Frank <tfrank at symyx.com> wrote:
> 
> I dunno if I have enough pictures of the process on our site
> www.frankracing.com , but as a general rule when working as a fabricator
> on anything, you usually spend the least of your time actually machining
> or welding.  Most is spent on deciding how, building bucks and mockups
> to help decide how, drawing, sketching and sitting around scratching
> your head, we will call this engineering, but only loosly.  Then getting
> to the point where you can cut, fit, clean to prep for welding and or
> machining.  Although I have a full 12 hours of welding that I did, most
> of the time was spent figuring out what to do and how to do it.  A good
> weld is usually marked by good prep and nice fitting, although I am not
> the best welder I usually try to do pretty good prep work, this will
> almost always take longer to do than the welding.
> 
> Now if you are already set up to make something then.. you can do it
> much faster and cheaper, let's say 2k for an intercooler.
> 
> So with all that, it is a fun project but just don't think that you are
> really going to save yourself anything.  If you do it right, I think
> that you will end up with something that might be fractionally better
> and if nothing else is done how you wanted it done.  For me it was more
> about doing it my way because I am a stubborn sun-o-a-b%$^ who thinks he
> knows how to do it better, almost always, sometimes I even have the time
> and motivation to get it done.
> 
> If you are going to do it I would recommend doing top to bottom, I think
> that ASW is going to sell a top to bottom soon to....MIKE? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theodore Chen [mailto:tedebearp at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: Trevor Frank; s-cars
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] FMIC Alternatives, try the stock one.
> 
> 
> --- Trevor Frank <tfrank at symyx.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ya know the stock one if probably the right solution for someone not
> > willing to pay 2k.  Coming from someone who built his own I would have
> > to say that if you where to buy an intercooler yourself and build it
> you
> > would be hard pressed to do it for less.  First you need access to
> quite
> > a bit of machinery and second the skill and time to do it.  If you can
> > find someone to do it for less then they probably aren't the kind of
> > fabricator that you would really want doing it for you.  I chuckle a
> bit
> > when people complain about the price because it seems obvious to me
> they
> > have no idea what it takes to do it.
> >
> > The size of the intercooler matters very little, let's say you get a
> > smaller intercooler you may save 2-$300 dollars, but then you have to
> go
> > thought developing a whole new system.  The labor is basically the
> same
> > so you have an anemic 2-1.7k intercooler.
> 
> trevor,
> 
> what's involved in building an intercooler?  once you buy the core, you
> have to add tanks to it.  the tanks have to have an inlet/outlet with
> a tube so you can attach a hose to it.  you also have to weld tabs
> in place for mounting the intercooler.  right?
> 
> -teddy
> 
> 
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