[s-cars] FMIC Alternatives, try the stock one.

[Trevor Frank]

I dunno if I have enough pictures of the process on our site
www.frankracing.com , but as a general rule when working as a fabricator
on anything, you usually spend the least of your time actually machining
or welding.  Most is spent on deciding how, building bucks and mockups
to help decide how, drawing, sketching and sitting around scratching
your head, we will call this engineering, but only loosly.  Then getting
to the point where you can cut, fit, clean to prep for welding and or
machining.  Although I have a full 12 hours of welding that I did, most
of the time was spent figuring out what to do and how to do it.  A good
weld is usually marked by good prep and nice fitting, although I am not
the best welder I usually try to do pretty good prep work, this will
almost always take longer to do than the welding.

Now if you are already set up to make something then.. you can do it
much faster and cheaper, let's say 2k for an intercooler.

So with all that, it is a fun project but just don't think that you are
really going to save yourself anything.  If you do it right, I think
that you will end up with something that might be fractionally better
and if nothing else is done how you wanted it done.  For me it was more
about doing it my way because I am a stubborn sun-o-a-b%$^ who thinks he
knows how to do it better, almost always, sometimes I even have the time
and motivation to get it done.

If you are going to do it I would recommend doing top to bottom, I think
that ASW is going to sell a top to bottom soon to....MIKE? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Theodore Chen [mailto:tedebearp at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:32 AM
To: Trevor Frank; s-cars
Subject: RE: [s-cars] FMIC Alternatives, try the stock one.


--- Trevor Frank <tfrank at symyx.com> wrote:
>
> Ya know the stock one if probably the right solution for someone not
> willing to pay 2k.  Coming from someone who built his own I would have
> to say that if you where to buy an intercooler yourself and build it
you
> would be hard pressed to do it for less.  First you need access to
quite
> a bit of machinery and second the skill and time to do it.  If you can
> find someone to do it for less then they probably aren't the kind of
> fabricator that you would really want doing it for you.  I chuckle a
bit
> when people complain about the price because it seems obvious to me
they
> have no idea what it takes to do it.
>
> The size of the intercooler matters very little, let's say you get a
> smaller intercooler you may save 2-$300 dollars, but then you have to
go
> thought developing a whole new system.  The labor is basically the
same
> so you have an anemic 2-1.7k intercooler.

trevor,

what's involved in building an intercooler?  once you buy the core, you
have to add tanks to it.  the tanks have to have an inlet/outlet with
a tube so you can attach a hose to it.  you also have to weld tabs
in place for mounting the intercooler.  right?

-teddy


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