[s-cars] Chevron Gas with Techron (MBTE) in Canada

Robert Myers robert at s-cars.org
Fri Jan 23 20:43:46 EST 2004


Basically - yes.  IMO, a very poor bureaucratic decision based upon faulty 
science and most likely a powerful lobby.

At 02:37 AM 1/24/2004 +0100, Mihnea Cotet wrote:

>Isn't MBTE what the government is using in CA to trick people into 
>thinking their cars are more environmental-friendly because it reduced 
>emissions? But actually, by lowering the fuel's energy content, one has to 
>get more often on the gas, which means more gas use, thus IMO equal or 
>even higher total emissions for all the cars in CA.... well, I guess for a 
>dorF truck that does 12 miles to da gallon it doesn't make such a big 
>difference anyway...
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>Mihnea, appreciating 98 RON with no MBTE crap in Belgium, C
>
>At 20:22 23/01/2004 -0500, Robert Myers wrote:
>>At 06:04 PM 1/23/2004 -0700, Dave Forgie wrote:
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>>>Brent:  I don't know where you are but I am in Vancouver BC and I can 
>>>get 94 (RON+MON)/2 from every Chevron and PetroCan in the lower mainland 
>>>(anti-smog measures).  Outside the Lower Mainland, 91 or 92 is always 
>>>available.  In Alberta, there are Chevrons but I think only 91 or 92 (no 
>>>94) (As far as I remember from last May).
>>>
>>>By the way isn't MBTE very close to toluene??
>>
>>Not at all!  Toluene is an aromatic hydrocarbon.  It contains a benzene 
>>ring and has a methyl group (-CH3) attached to it.
>>
>>MTBE is methyl tertiary-butyl ether,  I has the same methyl group 
>>attached to an oxygen with is then attached to a tertiary-butyl group -C(CH3)3
>>
>>These two compounds are almost totally different in their chemistry and 
>>also their environmental effects.
>>
>>Toluene can be used as an octane booster.  MTBE is used as a fuel 
>>oxygenator designed to reduce emissions of unburned hydrocarbons.  It 
>>actually lowers the fuel's energy content.
>>
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>>Quit bitching.  Start a revolution.
>>
>>Bob
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