[s-cars] Chevron Gas with Techron (MBTE) in Canada

[Mihnea Cotet]

I am actually sure that if CA residents were to have 94 R+M/2 (98.5~99 RON 
or so) available and even mandatory, the total emissions would be much less 
harmful than they are now....

At 20:43 23/01/2004 -0500, Robert Myers wrote:

>Basically - yes.  IMO, a very poor bureaucratic decision based upon faulty 
>science and most likely a powerful lobby.
>
>At 02:37 AM 1/24/2004 +0100, Mihnea Cotet wrote:
>
>>Isn't MBTE what the government is using in CA to trick people into 
>>thinking their cars are more environmental-friendly because it reduced 
>>emissions? But actually, by lowering the fuel's energy content, one has 
>>to get more often on the gas, which means more gas use, thus IMO equal or 
>>even higher total emissions for all the cars in CA.... well, I guess for 
>>a dorF truck that does 12 miles to da gallon it doesn't make such a big 
>>difference anyway...
>>
>>
>>Mihnea, appreciating 98 RON with no MBTE crap in Belgium, C
>>
>>At 20:22 23/01/2004 -0500, Robert Myers wrote:
>>>At 06:04 PM 1/23/2004 -0700, Dave Forgie wrote:
>>>
>>>>Brent:  I don't know where you are but I am in Vancouver BC and I can 
>>>>get 94 (RON+MON)/2 from every Chevron and PetroCan in the lower 
>>>>mainland (anti-smog measures).  Outside the Lower Mainland, 91 or 92 is 
>>>>always available.  In Alberta, there are Chevrons but I think only 91 
>>>>or 92 (no 94) (As far as I remember from last May).
>>>>
>>>>By the way isn't MBTE very close to toluene??
>>>
>>>Not at all!  Toluene is an aromatic hydrocarbon.  It contains a benzene 
>>>ring and has a methyl group (-CH3) attached to it.
>>>
>>>MTBE is methyl tertiary-butyl ether,  I has the same methyl group 
>>>attached to an oxygen with is then attached to a tertiary-butyl group -C(CH3)3
>>>
>>>These two compounds are almost totally different in their chemistry and 
>>>also their environmental effects.
>>>
>>>Toluene can be used as an octane booster.  MTBE is used as a fuel 
>>>oxygenator designed to reduce emissions of unburned hydrocarbons.  It 
>>>actually lowers the fuel's energy content.
>>>
>>>____
>>>
>>>Quit bitching.  Start a revolution.
>>>
>>>Bob
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