[s-cars] koni's vs bilsteins

Charles Baer charlie at istari.com
Mon Mar 15 12:31:23 EST 2004


Bilsteins use oil just like Konis for the damping fluid, they also 
pressurize the
cartridge with gas to help control fomaing of the oil caused by churning 
through
the assembly.

I put Koni Sports on my sedan, set them 1/3 turn from full soft and they 
still seem
harsh compared to Bilstein Sports on the avant.  In general, the 
Bilsteins seem to
have a damping that is softer at the initial part of the stroke.  I've 
run AVS Sports
and S-03s on both cars, they don't seem to factor into the comparison.

Charlie

Kirby Smith wrote:

>In my experience using both makes on various cars (but only Koni so far
>on my S6), beyond whatever compression and rebound damping factor
>differences they might be designed to have, the Bilsteins seem to add a
>subtle new resonance.  I have always assumed that because gas is
>compressible and oil essentially isn't, the Bilstein's use of gas adds a
>higher natural frequency while performing its function of damping the
>spring/wheel natural frequency.  I have no information supporting this
>theory, nor do I know if my observation is corrupted by the newer shock
>transmitting road vibration more easily than the older shock that was
>replaced.  I've never felt a strong urge to buy both types and do a
>multiple blind swap test.
>
>kirby
>
>
>james McCarthy wrote:
>  
>
>>Hey folks,
>>I'm debating the koni adjustables vs the bilsteins
>>(HD) to go with my -on order- OEM s6 sport springs
>>(20mm drop and rates comparable with the eibach's).
>>I'm very happy with the bilsteins on my avant, but I'm
>>intrigued by the adjustability of the Koni's.  Any
>>thoughts? Good experience? Bad experience?
>>TIA
>>-jjm
>>
>>95.5 s6 sedan - his
>>95.5 s6 avant - hers
>>
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