[s-cars] Attempted Translations from Garrett to KKK Speak

Mihnea Cotet mik at info.fundp.ac.be
Fri Mar 19 13:56:45 EST 2004


IMHO James' compressor wheel is a 27 compressor wheel, according to his 
measurements, I'd say it is a 2769 compressor wheel, maybe 2770.

If the "big" diameter of his compressor wheel is almost 2.7 inches (2.694 
can be rounded off to 2.7, just as 2.598 can be rounded off to 2.6), then 
the compressor wheel is a 27, not a 26. This is about the basic KKK 
numbering system so I'm pretty sure James' wheel isn't a 2672 compressor 
wheel. FWIW, James, can you please post some pics of it and give us some 
measurements like the exducer bore for instance? Is there a KKK type plate 
on the turbo with an "Ausführ.-Nr." on it?

HTH and thanks,

Mihnea

At 10:55 19/03/2004 -0700, MLP wrote:
>Thanks Jim.  There seems to be some discrepancy between yours & Mihnea's
>numbers.
>
>Mihnea #"s   small  big    height
> > K26 inches 1.889  2.598  23mm -> 0.9055"
>
>vs.          1.867  2.694          0.822"
>              0.022  0.096          0.0835
>diff in mm's  .56   2.44           2.12mm
>
>Those numbers, 2mm+, seem to me to be far enough apart to raise the
>question, could we be looking at different KKK wheels, or do we possibly
>have measurement discrepancies of some other sort?
>
>FWIW Minhea describes his wheel he measured as:
> > KKK ratio (Minor/Major): 72% (comp wheel type is 2672)
> > trim: 62% if my maths are still right.
>{sic. there may have been a math error here, I think the number is
>53.9%)
> > The wheel has 12 blades and is about 23mm high.
>
>I'm looking for Ned Ritchie's post a month or two back on 'interpreting
>the KKK numbering system' to see if there might be a clue in there.
>
>I know the height is a bit more difficult to measure since the base of
>the blades slope.  FWIW, I get pretty close to the same height # for the
>K24 wheel as you have for your RS2.
>I measured off the height of the "taller" of the blade pairs to the base
>of the wheel casting, I come up with @ 20.5mm or 0.808" tall.  For the
>RS2 number, my rounding (48.9%) would suggest 49 trim before 48 for
>whatever difference in final result that might mean.
>
>For the rest of the Friday Afternoon laughs, does anyone want to make a
>stab based on any of the above, as to which, if any of the generally
>"published" Garrett compressor maps the K24 &/or the RS2 wheels would or
>should be most similar to?
>
>Again, thanks for the input.
>
>mike
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Bufkin [mailto:jbufkin at austin.rr.com]
>
> >Here's what I have on my RS2 turbo.
> >Measurements on the compressor wheel.
> >
> >The Top (small diameter of the wheel itself) is 1.867 inches
> >The Big (big diameter of the wheel ) is 2.694 inches
> >
> >Thats a 48 trim.
> >
> >12 blades,  6 tall, 6 short
> >Wheel is about .822 inches
> >
>
>
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