[s-cars] Speeding Ticket Question - speed tracked by airplane...

chris chambers fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com
Wed May 19 21:13:19 EDT 2004


wel this was supposed to be there...


Peter, fun som real good reading here:

http://www.norman-law.com/page25.html

I copied part for you to read;


"plane speed detection - This is very similar to VASCAR as the officer
in the airplane measures the amount of time it takes a vehicle to cover
a certain distance. The officer then computes the speed of the vehicle
and radios it to a patrol officer on the ground who stops the car and
writes a ticket. Having marks on the ground or highway are 
considered illegal in California as they are considered a speed trap.
There are a few disadvantages to airplane speed detection which can
work to your benefit in court. Usually the officer uses the airplane to
pace the vehicle on the ground and get their speed. You must explain to
the courts that the airplane speeds are measured in air speed which is
relative to the surrounding air. If the airplane is traveling into the
wind, the speed is slower than if the aircraft was producing the same
amount of power with a 
tailwind. Also, it may be difficult to determine whether it was
actually your vehicle that was spotted from the air, since many cars
look alike from such a great distance. This could be the basis for a
sound defense in court. A most advantageous problem is that this system
relies on two different officers. Consequently, both officers need to
be in court for a conviction. It's difficult enough to get one officer
there at a specific time and the odds of bringing both into court at
the same time are slim. If both officers do happen to attend your
trial, request of the court that one officer be removed from the
courtroom so that each may be interrogated individually, and possibly
contradict each other which would give you the basis for a defense of
reasonable doubt."



--- Mark Strangways <strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
> Is there a post in here somewhere Chris ?
> 
> Mark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chris chambers" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Scar" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Speeding Ticket Question - speed tracked by
> airplane...
> 
> 
> >
> > --- Peter Schulz <pcschulz at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Folks:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how vehicles speed is calculated and the vehicle
> > > identified?
> > > I assume that speed calculation is simple as stopwatch used to
> > > measure time
> > > between marks on the road.
> > >
> > > I was given a ticket for driving 80 mph in a 65mph zone while
> driving
> > > my
> > > audi (mandatory audi content)...tracking was done by airplane
> > > This happened Friday at the Hooksett NH tolls, where the state
> police
> > > were
> > > out in force, and pulling people over at the toll booths.
> > > ( and no,  I was far from the fastest car)
> > >
> > > I'm trying to decide whether I should pay, or exercise my right
> to
> > > show up
> > > in court.
> > >
> > > Does the airplane operator take down the license plate ( or take
> a
> > > photo)
> > > to identify the vehicle?  Is this kept as proof?
> > > Or do they just radio ahead to the ground officer and say
> > > silver-colored
> > > car, clocked at xxx mph...stop and ticket.?
> > >   ( which means that the car was identified and tracked until
> > > definite
> > > identification is made)
> > >
> > > Since they were tracking multiple vehicles, and there was no
> ground
> > > confirmation of vehicle speed, I am curious as to how the police
> are
> > > making
> > > their case.
> > > I.e. is it possible that they did not have my license plate until
> I
> > > came to
> > > a stop at the tolls?
> > >
> > > Or would the likely scenario be that the officer in the airplane
> said
> > > "
> > > silver car, lane 3, stop and issue citation for xxx mph..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter Schulz
> > > 1990 CQ (perpetually awaiting S2 3b engine transplant)
> > > 1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica
> > > 1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey
> > > Chelmsford, MA USA
> > > peter at audifans.com
> > >
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