[s-cars] Speeding Ticket Question - speed tracked by airplane...

[Bill Clancy]

If you are speeding, you gotta pay.

I just drive the way I want to.   sometimes 70, sometimes 110.   if I get
caught I pay the fine.    what other choice do we have?   We don't live in
Iraq.    Realize how good you have it.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chris chambers" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst at rogers.com>; "Scar"
<s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Speeding Ticket Question - speed tracked by
airplane...


> wel this was supposed to be there...
>
>
> Peter, fun som real good reading here:
>
> http://www.norman-law.com/page25.html
>
> I copied part for you to read;
>
>
> "plane speed detection - This is very similar to VASCAR as the officer
> in the airplane measures the amount of time it takes a vehicle to cover
> a certain distance. The officer then computes the speed of the vehicle
> and radios it to a patrol officer on the ground who stops the car and
> writes a ticket. Having marks on the ground or highway are
> considered illegal in California as they are considered a speed trap.
> There are a few disadvantages to airplane speed detection which can
> work to your benefit in court. Usually the officer uses the airplane to
> pace the vehicle on the ground and get their speed. You must explain to
> the courts that the airplane speeds are measured in air speed which is
> relative to the surrounding air. If the airplane is traveling into the
> wind, the speed is slower than if the aircraft was producing the same
> amount of power with a
> tailwind. Also, it may be difficult to determine whether it was
> actually your vehicle that was spotted from the air, since many cars
> look alike from such a great distance. This could be the basis for a
> sound defense in court. A most advantageous problem is that this system
> relies on two different officers. Consequently, both officers need to
> be in court for a conviction. It's difficult enough to get one officer
> there at a specific time and the odds of bringing both into court at
> the same time are slim. If both officers do happen to attend your
> trial, request of the court that one officer be removed from the
> courtroom so that each may be interrogated individually, and possibly
> contradict each other which would give you the basis for a defense of
> reasonable doubt."
>
>
>
> --- Mark Strangways <strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
> > Is there a post in here somewhere Chris ?
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "chris chambers" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Scar" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Speeding Ticket Question - speed tracked by
> > airplane...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Peter Schulz <pcschulz at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > Folks:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how vehicles speed is calculated and the vehicle
> > > > identified?
> > > > I assume that speed calculation is simple as stopwatch used to
> > > > measure time
> > > > between marks on the road.
> > > >
> > > > I was given a ticket for driving 80 mph in a 65mph zone while
> > driving
> > > > my
> > > > audi (mandatory audi content)...tracking was done by airplane
> > > > This happened Friday at the Hooksett NH tolls, where the state
> > police
> > > > were
> > > > out in force, and pulling people over at the toll booths.
> > > > ( and no,  I was far from the fastest car)
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to decide whether I should pay, or exercise my right
> > to
> > > > show up
> > > > in court.
> > > >
> > > > Does the airplane operator take down the license plate ( or take
> > a
> > > > photo)
> > > > to identify the vehicle?  Is this kept as proof?
> > > > Or do they just radio ahead to the ground officer and say
> > > > silver-colored
> > > > car, clocked at xxx mph...stop and ticket.?
> > > >   ( which means that the car was identified and tracked until
> > > > definite
> > > > identification is made)
> > > >
> > > > Since they were tracking multiple vehicles, and there was no
> > ground
> > > > confirmation of vehicle speed, I am curious as to how the police
> > are
> > > > making
> > > > their case.
> > > > I.e. is it possible that they did not have my license plate until
> > I
> > > > came to
> > > > a stop at the tolls?
> > > >
> > > > Or would the likely scenario be that the officer in the airplane
> > said
> > > > "
> > > > silver car, lane 3, stop and issue citation for xxx mph..."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > -Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter Schulz
> > > > 1990 CQ (perpetually awaiting S2 3b engine transplant)
> > > > 1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica
> > > > 1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey
> > > > Chelmsford, MA USA
> > > > peter at audifans.com
> > > >
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