[s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25, etc

[Trevor Frank]

How about lap times.

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Subject: Re: [s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25, etc


I just want to see all you guys line up and see who gets from one point
to 
another first. I know its not fair to include those of us with lighter
20vt
cars  but most of you have URS4/S6's so lets see it, I mean all this
travel to
see  your dyno #'s here and there, why not just have a drag meet, or a
nice
streach  of closed road that you can do a second gear at 4000rpm to
150mph RACE?
Great  thread though guys, keep it up!

Elijah


In a message dated 11/11/2004 6:34:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Strangconst at rogers.com writes:

Add  another data point..
Some one pull their high HP motor already and put it  on a engine dyno.
I would love to see a comparison that way.

I would  also love to know if a 200 WHP engine losses the same
drivetrain and

friction losses thru the drive line as a 400 WHP.
I really wonder if  using a percentage to approximate driveline loss is
really the way to  go.

Mark S
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25,  etc


> Hey Dave,
>
> Javad Said:
>>... but  allowing the turbo to flow more
>> air to avoid the surge or  overspeed line. Altitude can have the same

>>  effect.
>
> I don't know what turbo you're running, I didn't mean  to imply that
_you,
> specifically_ were benefitting, that's why I said  "surge or overspeed

> line" implying that generally, it could go either  way depending on
the
> size of the turbo.
>
> Agreed on all  the "estimations", it will be very interesting to do a
> baseline at  elevation and sea-level, don't necessarily want to wager
money
> on  it  ;)  , but it would be a great data-point to add to the
information
> database, as I hope that I've done with my  documentation.
>
> Thanks,
>  Javad
>
>
>>Interesting... so not only are our cars  getting the benefit of
>>overcorrection
>>on the dynos, but  the altitude is helping our turbos perform
better??? 
>>C'mon
>>guys, give me a break. Review your maps. To run  at the PR that we're
>>running (denominator is lower... therefore, PR  is higher at altitude)

>>we're crossing
>>the top of the  map... certainly no improvement WRT compressor
efficiency.
>>Let me  know an acceptable sea level dyno, and I'll go give it a  try.
>>Dave
>>
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