[s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25, etc
Trevor Frank
tfrank at symyx.com
Thu Nov 11 21:08:30 EST 2004
Ok, let's start a new one, car, driver, suspension, brakes, tires etc...
Fastest street; URS4, Fastest coupe, fastest 4000 etc...
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25, etc
No, this contest is about the car not the driver. Straight up HP!!!!
In a message dated 11/11/2004 8:50:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tfrank at symyx.com writes:
How about lap times.
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25,
etc
I just want to see all you guys line up and see who gets from
one point
to
another first. I know its not fair to include those of us with
lighter
20vt
cars but most of you have URS4/S6's so lets see it, I mean all
this
travel to
see your dyno #'s here and there, why not just have a drag
meet, or a
nice
streach of closed road that you can do a second gear at 4000rpm
to
150mph RACE?
Great thread though guys, keep it up!
Elijah
In a message dated 11/11/2004 6:34:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Strangconst at rogers.com writes:
Add another data point..
Some one pull their high HP motor already and put it on a
engine dyno.
I would love to see a comparison that way.
I would also love to know if a 200 WHP engine losses the same
drivetrain and
friction losses thru the drive line as a 400 WHP.
I really wonder if using a percentage to approximate driveline
loss is
really the way to go.
Mark S
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] 80tq: 20v Project Update, 415whp, 12.25,
etc
> Hey Dave,
>
> Javad Said:
>>... but allowing the turbo to flow more
>> air to avoid the surge or overspeed line. Altitude can have
the same
>> effect.
>
> I don't know what turbo you're running, I didn't mean to
imply that
_you,
> specifically_ were benefitting, that's why I said "surge or
overspeed
> line" implying that generally, it could go either way
depending on
the
> size of the turbo.
>
> Agreed on all the "estimations", it will be very interesting
to do a
> baseline at elevation and sea-level, don't necessarily want
to wager
money
> on it ;) , but it would be a great data-point to add to the
information
> database, as I hope that I've done with my documentation.
>
> Thanks,
> Javad
>
>
>>Interesting... so not only are our cars getting the benefit
of
>>overcorrection
>>on the dynos, but the altitude is helping our turbos perform
better???
>>C'mon
>>guys, give me a break. Review your maps. To run at the PR
that we're
>>running (denominator is lower... therefore, PR is higher at
altitude)
>>we're crossing
>>the top of the map... certainly no improvement WRT compressor
efficiency.
>>Let me know an acceptable sea level dyno, and I'll go give it
a try.
>>Dave
>>
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