[s-cars] Re: KKK Hybrid Turbo

Tue Oct 12 00:09:22 EDT 2004

Well, I might as well throw my hat in the ring. I have
a KKK Hybrid that has less than 2 hours on it. It's a
K26 hot side with a 57 trim compressor and a TO4E
center housing.
Let me know if you have any interest.
Regards
Brian "too many parts and not enough places to store
them" Bilotti
'93 S4 "Edwin" Deceased 01/17/04
'95 S6 Avant "much harrier balls now"
--- mlp <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:

> FWIW, I may have one for sale shortly.... if anyone
> is interested in a used
> one that's had @ 7,000 to 10K miles, if I remember
> correctly put on it.  It
> came off my RS2'd black Avant.
> 
> mike
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> >[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
> Of JR
> >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:47 PM
> >To: Lewis, Gary M
> >Cc: Scar
> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: KKK Hybrid Turbo
> >
> >
> >Anyone have any updates about the Innovative RS2++?
>  Are they going to 
> >do it and if so how much?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >JR
> >
> >
> >
> >Lewis, Gary M wrote:
> >
> >>The old Innovative RS2++ K26 based turbo is
> probably dead as 
> >a product 
> >>line.  However:
> >>
> >>Innovative has all the parts (from yours truly, a
> K24 and a 
> >K26) and is 
> >>considering an RS2++ using a K24 compressor cover,
> and a next larger 
> >>wheel vs. what was used in the original RS2++ K26
> compressor cover. 
> >>Problem with the K26 compressor cover is the cover
> breaks 
> >over 1/2 the 
> >>time when machining, creating real problems for
> Innovative.  The K24 
> >>compressor cover is much more machine able, can
> actually take 
> >a bigger 
> >>wheel, and the opening won't need to be cut off
> and re-welded 
> >on.  The 
> >>K24 a/r isn't as large as the K26, but looking at
> Dawson's 
> >RS2 dyno vs. 
> >>Cody's Innovative RS2++ (with K26 a/r), bigger a/r
> doesn't seem to be 
> >>critical on the KKK 24/26 product line and our
> beloved 2.2 liter.
> >>
> >>I expect the NEW RS2++ will be in the same price
> range ($950), but 
> >>probably cheaper.  Assuming Innovative does this
> (they CAN do 
> >it, they 
> >>aren't sure if they WANT to), expect RS2 type
> turbo's to be 
> >flowing at 
> >>less than RS2 prices in October.  I will let
> everyone know if they 
> >>choose to, and will post results from my car as
> they happen.  
> >My guess 
> >>is to keep the prices down they (me?) will arrange
> turbo's in lots 
> >>(group buys) of probably ~10.
> >>
> >>My goal is to provide all the RS2 wannabe's with a
> fast (turnaround 
> >>wise), inexpensive, total bolt-on, and possibly
> better 
> >solution to the 
> >>factory RS2 turbo.  I have no financial
> affiliation with Innovative. 
> >>This is a hobby.
> >>
> >>Gary Lewis
> >>
> >>1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust
> Manifold, RS2 
> >>Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Turbine, Factory K26
> Cold side 
> >(Audi Works 
> >>'999' P/N, RS2 Comp) with 50mm intake and custom
> Innovative Turbo 
> >>compressor wheel), TurboXS Type 25 Bypass Valve,
> Bilsteins, Eibachs, 
> >>Big Reds, Spec II Clutch.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: chris chambers
> [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:40 AM
> >>To: JR; Scar
> >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: KKK Hybrid Turbo
> >>
> >>
> >>JR,
> >>
> >>I posted that update, they hadn't determined what
> the cost might be 
> >>raised to but at that time were thinking $1050 -
> 1100.
> >>
> >>HTH
> >>
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>--- JR <urs4 at magnaspeed.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>>I thought I remembered an email back a couple of
> months that said 
> >>>Innovative has suspended making your "Innovative
> KKK RS2++" and was 
> >>>re-evaluating the cost. I wonder what is costing
> these days. Anyone 
> >>>know?
> >>>
> >>>JR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Lewis, Gary M wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>Some additional comments from me:
> >>>>
> >>>>Cody Payne's Innovative RS2++ turbo vs. Dave
> Dawson's RS2 stock
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>turbo
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>Dyno.
> >>>>
> >>>>I just looked at the two dyno runs.  Other than
> the ~20 ft lbs tq
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>more
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>the RS2 put out, the graphs are nearly
> identical, lower and upper.
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>I
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>doubt one could tell the difference between the
> cars when driving,
> >>>>perhaps the RS2 is snappier.  Interesting.
> >>>>
> >>>>This is actually telling in that when it comes
> to turbos on an RS2
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>setup
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>car, cheaper is better.  In other words, get a
> #6 and a 50 trim (or
> >>>>super 50??), or an Innovative KKK RS2++ BEFORE
> you get a stock RS2 
> >>>>because they are cheaper, and perform about the
> same.  Speculative 
> >>>>comments, but I'm starting to lean this way.  I
> think a K24
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>compressor
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>housing on my turbo should lower boost
> thresholds, but I need to put
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>it
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>in the car to really be sure...
> >>>>
> >>>>Ciao,
> >>>>
> >>>>Gary Lewis
> >>>>
> >>>>1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2
> Exhaust Manifold, RS2
> >>>>Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Turbine, Factory
> K26 Cold side (Audi
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>Works
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>'999' P/N) with 50mm intake and custom
> Innovative Turbo compressor
> >>>>wheel), TurboXS Type 25 Bypass Valve, Bilsteins,
> Eibachs, Big Reds,
> >>>>      
> >>>>
> >>>Spec
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>>II Clutch.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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