[s-cars] HID lights group buy - $185/set delivered

[Kevin Day]

I agree 100%.  I was half expecting the HID retrofit to result in worse
light than before, but after using them for a month or so now I don't
see any serious issues.  Daniel Stern's points make sense, but I think
they apply more to common headlights, and less to fancy projector 
lights like we have. 

The only complaint about the light output I have is that the near-field
lighting seems a bit too bright, as if I had my fog lights on all of the
time.  This may be due to a bad aiming job on my part though, which 
I plan to revisit.  Regardless, it is still a distinct improvement.

Incidentally, my driving is almost exclusively in urbanized areas, and the
HIDs were definitely worthwhile.  My 9011 high beams are great but
I hardly ever get to use them, whereas the HIDs improve my commute every 
night.  

-Kevin


On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 04:06:30PM -0500, Bruce Mendel wrote:
> Yeah, he's the master of lighting, and I buy tons of things from him. He's a
> great guy, a real lighting zealot. But sometimes zealots are blind (no pun
> intended) to reality, and rely too much on theory.
> 
> Scientifically, he's correct. But I've done a ton of  A/B comparisons with
> one HID installed, and one halogen, and I am on a dark road at a stop.
> Second car is there to drive towards my car looking for glare.
> 
> Towel over one light, then the other. Drive short distance with one light
> connected, then the other. Walk 100 yards from the car and look back at
> driver's height for glare. Have other car come towards my car looking for
> glare. Etc. etc.
> 
> The HID's are so clearly superior in amount of light, with all else like
> dispersion, glare, and beam pattern being essentially the same that I throw
> science out the window and go with more usable light on the road.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lee Levitt" <lee at wheelman.com>
> To: "'Bruce M.'" <brucem105 at Comcast.net>; "'RM'" <waves at epix.net>;
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] HID lights group buy - $185/set delivered
> 
> 
> > Bruce writes:
> >
> > >
> > > With these super cheap HID's, they do in fact stay very close
> > > to OEM beam pattern. They also throw about a million more
> > > times light on the road (by my scientific calculations).
> >
> > Read Stern's treatise against HID fog lamps. Then you'll know why more
> light
> > isn't necessarily better.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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