[s-cars] Fwd: RE: S6 at Docksteader

Fri Feb 18 15:44:20 EST 2005

The bosses for the bracket are on the trans casing.  It will bolt right
up.  Even some of the early S4tt's still had the bosses.

Gabriel Caldwell

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Einblau [mailto:einblau at einblau.com] 
Sent: February 18, 2005 10:07 AM
To: S-CAR at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] Fwd: RE: S6 at Docksteader

Hello all,
Would appreciate any help with this problem.  Any BTDT on installing a
95.5 
trans to a 93 body with the Procon 10 set up?  Can the bracket needed
for 
the Procon system cable be attached to the 95.5 trans.?
Ron

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>Hi Ron,
>My trans. is a 95.5 and like all OE1's it does have torsen but it is
not 
>set up with this ProconTen seatbelt system as the 95.5's have driver
and 
>passenger airbags.
>This system may be able to be removed from the your old trans. and 
>installed on mine but I wouldn't know.
>Post to the list perhaps?
>Let me know whatever you want to do.  No hurry.
>Cheerio
>Bill M
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Einblau [mailto:einblau at einblau.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:20 AM
>To: Dave Forgie
>Cc: Bill Mahoney
>Subject: Re: S6 at Docksteader
>
>Hi Dave,
>Thanks for the info.  The noise I have in 1st gear is most pronounced
when 
>the trans is cold.  It goes beyond a whine into a clicking-grinding 
>sound.  When the trans warms up, the sound reduces dramatically.
>I will ask Bill Mahoney (who has the transmission) if his transmission
is 
>OE1 torsen equipped.
>Thanks again,
>Ron
>
>At 09:18 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
>
>Ron:  I don't know if you saw the comments to my tranny whine posting
on 
>Audifans but several people said they have had a non-pinion bearing 1st

>gear whine for many thousands of miles, e.g. 25,000 miles, without the 
>problem getting any worst.  It is only in first gear and they didn't 
>typically do much driving in first for very long.
>
>The big deal with our 01E torsen equipped trannies is they are set up
for 
>the ProconTen seatbelt pretensioning system.  There is a steel cable 
>attached to the transmission and the chassis. In the event of a
front-end 
>collision, as the motor and transmission are driven back and down in
the 
>chassis, the cable pulls on the seat belts, helping to limit our body's

>movement towards the dash and steering wheel.  You have to remember
that 
>these C4 bodied cars were not all equipped with steering wheel and 
>passenger air bags. They were (mostly) in North America but not so 
>elsewhere.  So, say, in Europe, without airbags, ProconTen was a big 
>deal.  Here, it is not as critical.  Important but not essential with
the 
>airbags working.
>
>I am sure you have seen Charlie's transmission pages but if not:
>
><http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/>http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/
>
>As Gabriel has pointed out, the 6 speed tranny from an neuS4tt is
almost a 
>bolt in (some minor mods needed). The only draw back is you lose the 
>ProconTen feature.  The upside is the cost is a lot less than an RS2
CRB 6 
>speed (if you can find one, they are about US$3500).
>
>HTH
>
>Dave F.
>
>
>
>Ron Einblau wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>I am looking at swapping a 95 S4 tranny into my 93S4.  The information
I 
>have is that there should be no problem doing a straight swap over.  Is

>there anything I am missing that I should consider before I go ahead
with 
>this project?
>Thanks for your input.
>Ron
>
>At 02:36 PM 1/29/2005, Ron Einblau wrote:
>
>Hi Dave,
>I am developing the same noise in my first gear.  93S4 (92 build) - 
>166,650 km.  The noise is more pronounced when the transmission is 
>cold.  When it is warmed up, I don't hear it so much.  So, from my
point 
>of view, it has to be something to do with first gear - maybe some
uneven 
>wear.  On my old Saab, my front transmission bearing went, causing some

>sloppyness in the countershaft, which ended up creating problems for
first 
>gear and others.  Maybe that is a clue?
>Cheers,
>Ron
>
>
>At 01:05 PM 1/29/2005, Dave Forgie wrote:
>
>I finally got around to test driving the 95 S6 at Docksteader (just for
>fun).  The car has been there for months (well before Christmas).  It
was
>originally an Ontario car that lived here for maybe a year or two until
its
>owner wanted a sports wagon and traded it on some new Volvo wagon.  The
S6
>is 04/95 build date (late 95) and has the nice three spoke steering
wheel
>and the six spoke Avus wheels.  However, it still has the older radio
and
>the infrared lock/unlock remote.  Its black on black and cosmetically
seems
>to be in pretty good shape.
>
>I had been trying to help a fellow named Ben Hui check out some of the
>S-cars that are around town.  He had said there was something wrong
with the
>transmission on this S6.  I didn't think it would be true but there is
>something "wrong" (?) with first gear.  It shouldn't be the pinion
bearing
>(because that supposedly was only an early 92 spec problem), yet there
is a
>grindy/whiny noise when starting out in first gear.  Once you shift to
>second, the noise is gone,  so I don't think its the pinion bearing.
>However, it could be a first gear (or clutch problem).  It sounds like
>something is rubbing/grinding on something else.  Or a bad GM power
steering
>pump (but its not the S6 steering pump).
>
>Anybody with some ideas?
>
>Dave F.
>
>
>Leading learning for twenty years - 1985-2005
>
>----------
>Ron Einblau
>President
>Einblau & Associates Ltd.
>#1400 - 1500 West Georgia Street
>Vancouver, B.C.   V6G 2Z6
>(604) 684-7164
>Please visit our web site: www.einblau.com
>
>Ron (OEM) Einblau
>93 S4
>Vancouver, B.C.
>
>Leading learning for twenty years - 1985-2005
>
>----------
>Ron Einblau
>President
>Einblau & Associates Ltd.
>#1400 - 1500 West Georgia Street
>Vancouver, B.C.   V6G 2Z6
>(604) 684-7164
>Please visit our web site: www.einblau.com

Ron (OEM) Einblau
93 S4
Vancouver, B.C.
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