[s-cars] Re: S-CAR-List Digest, Vol 16, Issue 77
johnny sack
toight at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 04:08:45 EST 2005
i agreee with all comments on tap.
i said last week that i didnt like tap...
and its not me being bias.
i installed the tap chips in my audi and while the car was faster, and
more impressive when i first installed them, i realized a couple of
things:
1) my car was extremly harsh to drive
2) my car's temperatures under the hood where very hot (just by touch)
3) my turbo after driving hard for 10 mins or so was glowing a bright
red...which scared the shit of me
4) when i got into my friends s6 who had an mtm set up i was shocked
at how much better the car was.
i ended up buying an mtm setup, when my MAF died, and i put the car
into storage i sold the mtm setup and returned her to stock.
I now want the mrc seup from bob and minhea....
it will be mine!
ditch tap...
the wastegate i bought at the same time i was told was garbage from an
x audi sport mechanic.
those are my 2 cents/sense as well
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> 3. NAC: Friday Weakend Theater - Why Cyclists Wear Black Pants
> (Lee Levitt)
> 4. RE: Interested in purchasing a rear diff
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> 5. RE: Wastegate spring mod??? (TMULLANE at snet.net)
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> 7. RE: Wastegate spring mod??? (mlp)
> 8. RE: Interested in purchasing a rear diff
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:44:17 -0800
> From: "Gabriel Caldwell" <gabriel at ts.bc.ca>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Fwd: RE: S6 at Docksteader
> To: "Ron Einblau" <einblau at einblau.com>, "S-CAR at audifans.com"
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> The bosses for the bracket are on the trans casing. It will bolt right
> up. Even some of the early S4tt's still had the bosses.
>
> Gabriel Caldwell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Einblau [mailto:einblau at einblau.com]
> Sent: February 18, 2005 10:07 AM
> To: S-CAR at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] Fwd: RE: S6 at Docksteader
>
> Hello all,
> Would appreciate any help with this problem. Any BTDT on installing a
> 95.5
> trans to a 93 body with the Procon 10 set up? Can the bracket needed
> for
> the Procon system cable be attached to the 95.5 trans.?
> Ron
>
> >X-Envelope-To: einblau at einblau.com
> >Envelope-to: einblau at einblau.com
> >From: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> >To: "'Ron Einblau'" <einblau at einblau.com>
> >Subject: RE: S6 at Docksteader
> >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:02 -0600
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> >X-PEP: build Jan 29 2005 13:10:42
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> >
> >Hi Ron,
> >My trans. is a 95.5 and like all OE1's it does have torsen but it is
> not
> >set up with this ProconTen seatbelt system as the 95.5's have driver
> and
> >passenger airbags.
> >This system may be able to be removed from the your old trans. and
> >installed on mine but I wouldn't know.
> >Post to the list perhaps?
> >Let me know whatever you want to do. No hurry.
> >Cheerio
> >Bill M
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ron Einblau [mailto:einblau at einblau.com]
> >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:20 AM
> >To: Dave Forgie
> >Cc: Bill Mahoney
> >Subject: Re: S6 at Docksteader
> >
> >Hi Dave,
> >Thanks for the info. The noise I have in 1st gear is most pronounced
> when
> >the trans is cold. It goes beyond a whine into a clicking-grinding
> >sound. When the trans warms up, the sound reduces dramatically.
> >I will ask Bill Mahoney (who has the transmission) if his transmission
> is
> >OE1 torsen equipped.
> >Thanks again,
> >Ron
> >
> >At 09:18 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
> >
> >Ron: I don't know if you saw the comments to my tranny whine posting
> on
> >Audifans but several people said they have had a non-pinion bearing 1st
>
> >gear whine for many thousands of miles, e.g. 25,000 miles, without the
> >problem getting any worst. It is only in first gear and they didn't
> >typically do much driving in first for very long.
> >
> >The big deal with our 01E torsen equipped trannies is they are set up
> for
> >the ProconTen seatbelt pretensioning system. There is a steel cable
> >attached to the transmission and the chassis. In the event of a
> front-end
> >collision, as the motor and transmission are driven back and down in
> the
> >chassis, the cable pulls on the seat belts, helping to limit our body's
>
> >movement towards the dash and steering wheel. You have to remember
> that
> >these C4 bodied cars were not all equipped with steering wheel and
> >passenger air bags. They were (mostly) in North America but not so
> >elsewhere. So, say, in Europe, without airbags, ProconTen was a big
> >deal. Here, it is not as critical. Important but not essential with
> the
> >airbags working.
> >
> >I am sure you have seen Charlie's transmission pages but if not:
> >
> ><http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/>http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/
> >
> >As Gabriel has pointed out, the 6 speed tranny from an neuS4tt is
> almost a
> >bolt in (some minor mods needed). The only draw back is you lose the
> >ProconTen feature. The upside is the cost is a lot less than an RS2
> CRB 6
> >speed (if you can find one, they are about US$3500).
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >Dave F.
> >
> >
> >
> >Ron Einblau wrote:
> >
> >Hello all,
> >I am looking at swapping a 95 S4 tranny into my 93S4. The information
> I
> >have is that there should be no problem doing a straight swap over. Is
>
> >there anything I am missing that I should consider before I go ahead
> with
> >this project?
> >Thanks for your input.
> >Ron
> >
> >At 02:36 PM 1/29/2005, Ron Einblau wrote:
> >
> >Hi Dave,
> >I am developing the same noise in my first gear. 93S4 (92 build) -
> >166,650 km. The noise is more pronounced when the transmission is
> >cold. When it is warmed up, I don't hear it so much. So, from my
> point
> >of view, it has to be something to do with first gear - maybe some
> uneven
> >wear. On my old Saab, my front transmission bearing went, causing some
>
> >sloppyness in the countershaft, which ended up creating problems for
> first
> >gear and others. Maybe that is a clue?
> >Cheers,
> >Ron
> >
> >
> >At 01:05 PM 1/29/2005, Dave Forgie wrote:
> >
> >I finally got around to test driving the 95 S6 at Docksteader (just for
> >fun). The car has been there for months (well before Christmas). It
> was
> >originally an Ontario car that lived here for maybe a year or two until
> its
> >owner wanted a sports wagon and traded it on some new Volvo wagon. The
> S6
> >is 04/95 build date (late 95) and has the nice three spoke steering
> wheel
> >and the six spoke Avus wheels. However, it still has the older radio
> and
> >the infrared lock/unlock remote. Its black on black and cosmetically
> seems
> >to be in pretty good shape.
> >
> >I had been trying to help a fellow named Ben Hui check out some of the
> >S-cars that are around town. He had said there was something wrong
> with the
> >transmission on this S6. I didn't think it would be true but there is
> >something "wrong" (?) with first gear. It shouldn't be the pinion
> bearing
> >(because that supposedly was only an early 92 spec problem), yet there
> is a
> >grindy/whiny noise when starting out in first gear. Once you shift to
> >second, the noise is gone, so I don't think its the pinion bearing.
> >However, it could be a first gear (or clutch problem). It sounds like
> >something is rubbing/grinding on something else. Or a bad GM power
> steering
> >pump (but its not the S6 steering pump).
> >
> >Anybody with some ideas?
> >
> >Dave F.
> >
> >
> >Leading learning for twenty years - 1985-2005
> >
> >----------
> >Ron Einblau
> >President
> >Einblau & Associates Ltd.
> >#1400 - 1500 West Georgia Street
> >Vancouver, B.C. V6G 2Z6
> >(604) 684-7164
> >Please visit our web site: www.einblau.com
> >
> >Ron (OEM) Einblau
> >93 S4
> >Vancouver, B.C.
> >
> >Leading learning for twenty years - 1985-2005
> >
> >----------
> >Ron Einblau
> >President
> >Einblau & Associates Ltd.
> >#1400 - 1500 West Georgia Street
> >Vancouver, B.C. V6G 2Z6
> >(604) 684-7164
> >Please visit our web site: www.einblau.com
>
> Ron (OEM) Einblau
> 93 S4
> Vancouver, B.C.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:45:51 -0500
> From: "Tom Black" <tblack5 at cogeco.ca>
> Subject: [s-cars] Fw: The Lexus
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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>
> Its Friday!
>
> > > The Lexus
> > >
> > > A very successful lawyer parked his brand new Lexus in front of the
> > > office, ready to show it off to his colleagues. As he got out, a
> > > truck came along, too close to the curb, and completely tore off the
>
> > > driver's door of the Lexus. The counselor immediately grabbed his
> > > cell phone, dialed 911, and it wasn't more than 5 minutes before
> > > a policeman pulled up.
>
> > > Before the cop had a chance to ask any questions, the lawyer started
>
> > > screaming hysterically. His Lexus, which he had just picked up the
> > > day before, was now completely ruined and would never be the same,
> > > no matter how the body shop tried to make it new again.
>
> > > After the lawyer finally wound down from his rant, the cop shook his
> > > head in disgust and disbelief.
>
> > > "I can't believe how materialistic you lawyers are,"
> he said. "You are so focused on your possessions that you neglect the
> > > most important things in life."
> > > "How can you say such a thing?" asked the lawyer.
> > > The cop replied, "My God, don't you even realize that your left arm is
> > > missing? It got ripped off when the truck hit you."
> > > "My God!" screamed the lawyer.
> > > (scroll down)
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
>
> > > .
> > > .
> > > "WHERE'S MY ROLEX?"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:49:43 -0500
> From: "Lee Levitt" <lee at wheelman.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] NAC: Friday Weakend Theater - Why Cyclists Wear
> Black Pants
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> http://www.alivewithlove.com/cyclists.html
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> Lee
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:54:55 -0500
> From: "Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)" <WQQ2PXK at ups.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] RE: Interested in purchasing a rear diff
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>, <QSHIPQ at aol.com>, "Joseph Pizzimenti"
> <pizzoman at yahoo.com>, <Djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Scott returned from the dead and Dave noted:
>
> <<<> HTH and only lurking for a while Paul.... My shop currently has a
> > Steamboat imposed lien on the Pizzo Evo (mit ES brakes), tho no engine
> swaps
> > currently planned.... I wonder if he notice his recaro swapped if I
> fixed my audi
> > seat heater?
> >
>
> If you turn his Steamboat disco mix up loud enough, he probably won't
> even
> notice.
> Dave in CO>>>
>
> Ah, utter the word Torsen and evoke the spirit of Torsen Boy himself.
> Good to see you're still a lurk! 8-)
>
> Heh, yes, I'm told you're housing the Evo... me, I have visions of
> Ferris Bueller-style parking garage attendants yes. MUWhahahahaha poor
> Joe.
>
> Dave, yes, you could troll for chics while blasting his ghetto mix...
> all the while watching a WRC video across the display of the radio (no
> joke, literally). I like that one, I'd keep that on for proper
> 'motivation' and 'inspiration', tho not sure how much more of that I
> need 8-).
>
> Only Pizzo, gotta love him. And that hugely enormous awkward ugly head
> of his, of course.
>
> -Paul make us proud with Joe's car Scott K.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:57:34 -0500
> From: TMULLANE at snet.net
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wastegate spring mod???
> To: waves at comcast.net
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID:
> <AA-9B0BEB109D8DB2CF2378F26A621B923E-ZZ at enroll02.prodigy.net>
>
> Not to knock TAP in general, but the TAP chip for the
> urS cars is not highly regarded. Rather than looking
> for a spring, think seriously about upgrading your
> firmware with either a new chip, or one of the MTM or
> other chips sold as other upgrade.
>
> Contact Mihnea, Uncle Bob, or Steve from Shadetree.
>
> IMHO, you are trying to make a silk purse from a
> sow's ear.
>
> Tom
>
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:41:47 -0500
> From: "R. Mair" <waves at comcast.net>
> Subject: [s-cars] Wastegate spring mod???
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <002f01c515fa$4743cc40$d96a5244 at Dell>
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>
> Question for the list... sorry if it's redundant. My
> 94S4 has a TAP chip
> and a baily's diverter valve, that's it. Will a
> different waste gate spri
> ng make any difference at this point? I want to avoid
> the RS2 upgrade on
> this car, and i don't want to have to install a fancy
> exhaust manifold or
> header due to potential valve burning. I drive rather
> mildly for the mos
> t point, but the occasional burst in the turnpike
> always comes in handy.
> I was going to rebuild the wastegate assembly soon,
> just for PM sake, and
> figured while i was in there, perhaps i could swap
> out the spring. Your
> thoughts? What about the different map sensor TAP
> sells?
>
> Rolf Mair
>
> Subject: [s-cars] Wastegate spring mod???
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <002f01c515fa$4743cc40$d96a5244 at Dell>
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>
> Question for the list... sorry if it's redundant. My
> 94S4 has a TAP chip
> and a baily's diverter valve, that's it. Will a
> different waste gate spri
> ng make any difference at this point? I want to avoid
> the RS2 upgrade on
> this car, and i don't want to have to install a fancy
> exhaust manifold or
> header due to potential valve burning. I drive rather
> mildly for the mos
> t point, but the occasional burst in the turnpike
> always comes in handy.
> I was going to rebuild the wastegate assembly soon,
> just for PM sake, and
> figured while i was in there, perhaps i could swap
> out the spring. Your
> thoughts? What about the different map sensor TAP
> sells?
>
> Rolf Mair
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:48:19 -0700
> From: "mlp" <mlped at qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] parking tickets :-(
> To: "'chris chambers'" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>, "'Scar'"
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <001101c515fb$2e261730$0200a8c0 at mpd530>
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>
> Deaf cop? I'm surprised he heard enough to get past the 1st ticket :-)
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: s-car-list- On Behalf Of chris chambers
> >
> >I WENT TO THE STORE THE OTHER DAY. I WAS ONLY IN THERE FOR
> >ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. WHEN I CAME OUT THERE WAS A COP WRITING
> >OUT A PARKING TICKET.
> >
> >I WENT UP TO HIM AND SAID, "COME ON, BUDDY, HOW ABOUT GIVING A
> >GUY A BREAK?"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:48:19 -0700
> From: "mlp" <mlped at qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wastegate spring mod???
> To: "'R. Mair'" <waves at comcast.net>, s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <001201c515fb$2e798e60$0200a8c0 at mpd530>
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>
> Try using someone other than TAP. And if you're going to go through the
> effort of changing out the pressure sensor, well I have to ask why, if all
> you intend to run is basically stock boost levels which by your
> comment/concern re: potentially burning a valve, but no plans or wish to
> change the exhaust manifold etc. you feel you need/want to change the
> pressure sensor.
>
> If you are going to change the pressure sensor, get a decent set of chips
> for your ECU.
>
> The bigger spring is a band aid. If you have an early TAP setup, its
> probable you may already have a bigger spring. IIRC, that was a fairly
> common TAP kludge/innovation. The bigger springs can reduce "creep" but too
> much spring can also prevent the ECU from doing its job. From what I've
> seen of list traffic, and personal experience, the WASTE GATE's on these
> cars rarely, very rarely fail, ... or need to be rebuilt for that matter.
>
> my 2 semi sentient cents
> mike
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: s-car On Behalf Of R. Mair
> >
> >Question for the list... sorry if it's redundant. My 94S4 has
> >a TAP chip and a baily's diverter valve, that's it. Will a
> >different waste gate spring make any difference at this point?
> >I want to avoid the RS2 upgrade on this car, and i don't want
> >to have to install a fancy exhaust manifold or header due to
> >potential valve burning. I drive rather mildly for the most
> >point, but the occasional burst in the turnpike always comes
> >in handy. I was going to rebuild the wastegate assembly soon,
> >just for PM sake, and figured while i was in there, perhaps i
> >could swap out the spring. Your thoughts? What about the
> >different map sensor TAP sells?
> >
> >Rolf Mair
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> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:58:07 -0500
> From: "Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)" <WQQ2PXK at ups.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] RE: Interested in purchasing a rear diff
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>, <ricoletsinger at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Rich aptly enlightened:
>
> <<<The torsen car tends to fight turn-in, causing more
> initial push as you're transitioning from braking to
> turning at corner entry. And, if you apply too much
> power at turn exit, the car will power-on oversteer.
> But it's more predictable in doing these things than
> the EDL car which grabs and jerks around
> intermittantly.
>
> I'd say go with the torsen only if you have track,
> rally or winter driving school experience.
>
> Rich>>>
>
> Salient points indeed. Heh, I saaaaaaid it wasn't for 'normal' people
> 8-)...
>
> -Paul not particularly normal by any means K.
>
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