[s-cars] Re: S-CAR-List Digest, Vol 16, Issue 70
johnny sack
toight at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 03:59:58 EST 2005
in regards to gauge placement.....
my friend took out the small vent to the left of the steering wheel by
the door. He built a small pod (out of a blockbuster video case!
shaped and dremeled the plastic, it actually looks and works great).
the gauge fits in perfect, air comes around the gauge and it is pretty
discrete.
the good thing is when he wants to take it out, he can simply pull it
out and put back in the grill and it looks like it was never modified.
funny, never thought blockbuster could be useful like that,
although i wonder how much they charged him for not returning the movie.
:p
p.s.
for those of you that bitched about my typing, i am actually sitting
at a pc now, instead of my blackberry, you might notice a bit of
difference in my level of coherance.
no?
i can take a picture for anyone that is interested.
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> 1. RE: reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control (mlp)
> 2. Where to get Power Antenna part#2 (RM)
> 3. Fw: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> (Mark Strangways)
> 4. RE: [NAC] Money making opportunity ;-) (mlp)
> 5. RE: [NAC] Money making opportunity ;-) (Robert Rossato)
> 6. RE: reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control (Steve Eiche)
> 7. Re: reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control (Abhijit Kondajji)
> 8. Re: reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control (Abhijit Kondajji)
> 9. Re: reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control (Abhijit Kondajji)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:47:10 -0700
> From: "mlp" <mlped at qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: "'Abhijit Kondajji'" <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>,
> s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <000601c51510$55d241f0$0200a8c0 at mpd530>
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>
> FWIW, there is room inside the lower dash to mount up to two 52mm diameter
> gauges in the left side driver's knee kick panel where the carbon fiber/wood
> trim piece is located. Requires removal of the trim piece, cutting an
> appropriate 2-1/4" hole or holes in the dash & trim piece to take the gauges
> and some careful surgery to put the parts back together ~ but it can be
> done. The gauge is pretty much out of sight to all but the driver in this
> location. Don't recommend it for a boost gauge location, but its not a bad
> location for occasional reference information such as oil temperature etc.
>
> mlp
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Abhijit Kondajji
> >
> >One of my favoUrite options. It's nice to be able to keep
> >track of coolant temps alongwith ambient temps. I miss the
> >option of an oil pressure/temp gauge and am thinking of buying
> >the Autometer series gauges for this purpose. Just have to
> >find some way of mounting these gauges on either the A-pillar
> >or the center console. (What a way to completely mess up an
> >otherwise clean interior)
> >
> >Abhijit "Incoherent Indian" Kondajji
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:00:13 -0600
> From: "RM" <waves at epix.net>
> Subject: [s-cars] Where to get Power Antenna part#2
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> Ok, so after the help of this fine list, i now know that i can repair just
> the mast. Problem is the only place i found that has the mast is the dealer,
> at a cost of $72... ouch. At this point i'm tempted to just get a manual
> unit for the time being, as i'm leaving for a trip in a few weeks and don't
> want to wait until the last minute. No one shows a manual unit for my 94 S4,
> does anyone know what will fit? Anyone have any sources for either the
> original unit, or mast? Thanks!
>
> Rolf
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:16:12 -0500
> From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst at rogers.com>
> Subject: Fw: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: "S-CAR at audifans.com" <S-CAR-List at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <006001c51514$61f39610$6400000a at Strangwaysgroup.ca>
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> Sent from wrong account..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Strangways" <Strangconst at rogers.com>
> To: "Abhijit Kondajji" <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>;
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
>
> > There is always the option of buying (from scrapper) the secondary IC
> > cluster board from a 92 / CAD 93. It has oil pressure / temp and a clock.
> >
> > The wiring should still be back there, I doubt they would rewire the car
> > to delete the gauges ?
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Abhijit Kondajji" <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> >
> >
> >> One of my favoUrite options. It's nice to be able to keep track of
> >> coolant temps alongwith ambient temps. I miss the option of an oil
> >> pressure/temp gauge and am thinking of buying the Autometer series
> >> gauges for this purpose. Just have to find some way of mounting these
> >> gauges on either the A-pillar or the center console. (What a way to
> >> completely mess up an otherwise clean interior)
> >>
> >> Abhijit "Incoherent Indian" Kondajji
> >>
> >> From: "Gabriel Caldwell" <gabriel at ts.bc.ca>
> >>>
> >>> Actually the climate control can tell you much more than that. Engine
> >>> Coolant temp, vehicle speed, RPM, AC compresser voltage, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Gabriel Caldwell
> >>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:07:40 -0700
> From: "mlp" <mlped at qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] [NAC] Money making opportunity ;-)
> To: "'Robert Rossato'" <r0ssat0_987 at att.net>, "'s-car-list'"
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <001201c51513$33572c00$0200a8c0 at mpd530>
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>
> Was owned by/came out of Michael Jackson's car?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Robert Rossato
> >
> >No Audi content other than a lot of you have Valentines in your car.
> >
> >The bidding on this thing is insane.
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5751413354&s
>
> This is the second time I've seen a used Valentine remote display get bid up
> to over $100 on Ebay when you can buy them brand new, with a warranty, for
> $40.
>
> WTF is wrong with some people??
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:38:37 +0000
> From: r0ssat0_987 at att.net (Robert Rossato)
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] [NAC] Money making opportunity ;-)
> To: mlped at qwest.net, "'s-car-list'" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID:
> <021720051738.2980.4214D69D000AB25900000BA42161243646019B0E9C9C019DD20D010D at att.net>
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> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "mlp" <mlped at qwest.net>
> > Was owned by/came out of Michael Jackson's car?
>
> Probably more like it was once installed in a red '70 Hemi 'Cuda that sold for $305k at Barrett-Jackson a few weeks ago.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:58:54 -0800
> From: Steve Eiche <seiche at shadetreesoftware.com>
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: tmullane at snet.net, s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <4214E96E.6050203 at shadetreesoftware.com>
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>
> I don't know of a single mechanic that would rely, or even start to diagnose a problem using the climate control diagnostics, except if they don't have their tool handy and the problem is with the climate control system. That is all it is designed for, and it can't tell you if something is wrong with the engine, or let you know that the clock spring wires for the airbag is broken.
>
> On the S car, the diagnostic tools give much more information than the blink codes. For example, while the blink code can you you that you have a problem with the engine speed sensor, the diagnostic device will also tell you if it thinks the sensor is shorted to B+ or open, shorted to ground and also whether the fault is sporatic or a hard failure. You can also monitor the various adaptation values, such as fuel and idle control trim values, intake air temp, ignition timing, injector duration, engine load, etc. The S6s also have diagnostics in the instrument cluster, and the diagnostic tools can be used to reset the service interval indicators. My partner in Shade Tree Software, Mike Durian, went to great pains to make sure that ProDiag is compatible with the S4/S6 cars, as he has a '95.5 S6 Avant. The instrument clusters in these cars are some of the most difficult modules to communicate with, as their communications interface is pretty poor.
>
> With the newer cars, you can monitor just about anything that you can think of. These cars also have diagnostics for just about every electronic module in the car that is more complex than a simple relay.
>
> Do you need one? Well, if you work on your own car like to know what is happening with the electronics systems, you can't do without one, especially on a late model car. Our customers like compact size of ProDiag and ease of use. Many keep the cable and PDA in the glove compartment or briefcase so it is always ready. Personally, I have a PalmOne Treo 600 phone with ProDiag loaded up, so it is always on my hip ready to diagnose a car, or to do a demo.
>
> If you have any questions on ProDiag or diagnostics, don't hesitate to email or call. As for group buys, generally we do any group buys through our distributors, as undercutting them would not be good business. If there is interest, I am sure that we could work out something with one of our distributors for full packages with the OBDII to 2x2 adapters along with the software and OBDII adapter if we do a quantity of 10+.
>
> Steve Eiche
> Shade Tree Software, LLC
> shadetreesoftware.com
> seiche at shadetreesoftware.com
> 303.940.2468
>
> Bob,
>
> I've had VAG-COM for about 4 years. Before I got it, I too was on the fence
> about spending the money. My wife, tired or listening to me pontificate on
> the subject, bought it as a birthday gift to end the debate. It has proven
> to be one of best tools in my box. It has paid for itself in airbag light
> resets alone. And if you think it does cool stuff with the OBD I cars, you
> ain't seen nothing yet.
>
> The climate control does provide diagnostic codes...for the climate control
> system. I won't help with a CEL or airbag light.
>
> Buy it, or buy Prodiag, the palm tool.
>
> Tom
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:02:04 -0500
> From: Abhijit Kondajji <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: "Pasqualoni, James E" <james.pasqualoni at gs.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <c4b0b7e605021710022c13f17d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I apologise but I do have an oil temp. gauge that seems to read really
> low temps. I've rarely seen it go beyond the 70 ish line and well, it
> is disconcerting to realise it may be way off. My ex-car had a pretty
> high temp. reading always and I guess I am hesitant to believe that
> the Ur-S runs such low oil temps. especially with a turbo.
>
> The AM gauge would be a standalone judge, per my thinking.
>
> Regards,
> Abhijit
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:13:30 -0500, Pasqualoni, James E
> <james.pasqualoni at gs.com> wrote:
> > FWIW-My 95.5 had an oil temp gauge.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Day
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:04 AM
> > To: Abhijit Kondajji
> > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 09:48:30AM -0500, Abhijit Kondajji wrote:
> > > One of my favoUrite options. It's nice to be able to keep track of
> > > coolant temps alongwith ambient temps.
> >
> > As I found out the hard way (anyone need a used working thermostat?) the
> > climate control only reports accurate coolant temperatures when the heater
> > is on. When the heater is off the coolant flow past the climate control's
> > sensor (which is not the same sensor that the ECU uses) is slow or stopped,
> > and the results are roughly 20C lower than the
> > actual temp.
> >
> > > I miss the option of an oil pressure/temp gauge
> >
> > I know the later cars don't have oil pressure gauges, but no oil temp
> > either?
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > S-CAR-List at audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:04:16 -0500
> From: Abhijit Kondajji <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: mlped at qwest.net
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <c4b0b7e605021710041ad791ec at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> If I ever post a pic of my wiring/cutting holes in a dashboard
> abilitiy on here, you and others on the list would take my car away
> from me with force.
>
> Abhijit "The Wiring Guru" Kondajji
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:47:10 -0700, mlp <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> > FWIW, there is room inside the lower dash to mount up to two 52mm diameter
> > gauges in the left side driver's knee kick panel where the carbon fiber/wood
> > trim piece is located. Requires removal of the trim piece, cutting an
> > appropriate 2-1/4" hole or holes in the dash & trim piece to take the gauges
> > and some careful surgery to put the parts back together ~ but it can be
> > done. The gauge is pretty much out of sight to all but the driver in this
> > location. Don't recommend it for a boost gauge location, but its not a bad
> > location for occasional reference information such as oil temperature etc.
> >
> > mlp
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Abhijit Kondajji
> > >
> > >One of my favoUrite options. It's nice to be able to keep
> > >track of coolant temps alongwith ambient temps. I miss the
> > >option of an oil pressure/temp gauge and am thinking of buying
> > >the Autometer series gauges for this purpose. Just have to
> > >find some way of mounting these gauges on either the A-pillar
> > >or the center console. (What a way to completely mess up an
> > >otherwise clean interior)
> > >
> > >Abhijit "Incoherent Indian" Kondajji
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:06:33 -0500
> From: Abhijit Kondajji <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> To: Mark Strangways <Strangconst at rogers.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <c4b0b7e605021710063325538d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I know even the '94 S4 came with oil pressure gauges but I doubt if
> they left the wiring in there because of the non-availability of oil
> pressure on A6's of the same period. Am I wrong here? It seems they
> redid the wiring for the A6 and hence the S6's do not have the option
> behind the IC.
>
> Regards,
> Abhijit
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:50:46 -0500, Mark Strangways
> <Strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
> > There is always the option of buying (from scrapper) the secondary IC
> > cluster board from a 92 / CAD 93. It has oil pressure / temp and a clock.
> >
> > The wiring should still be back there, I doubt they would rewire the car to
> > delete the gauges ?
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Abhijit Kondajji" <abhijitkondajji at gmail.com>
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] reading codes- VAG-COM vs climate control
> >
> > > One of my favoUrite options. It's nice to be able to keep track of
> > > coolant temps alongwith ambient temps. I miss the option of an oil
> > > pressure/temp gauge and am thinking of buying the Autometer series
> > > gauges for this purpose. Just have to find some way of mounting these
> > > gauges on either the A-pillar or the center console. (What a way to
> > > completely mess up an otherwise clean interior)
> > >
> > > Abhijit "Incoherent Indian" Kondajji
> > >
> > > From: "Gabriel Caldwell" <gabriel at ts.bc.ca>
> > >>
> > >> Actually the climate control can tell you much more than that. Engine
> > >> Coolant temp, vehicle speed, RPM, AC compresser voltage, etc.
> > >>
> > >> Gabriel Caldwell
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > S-CAR-List mailing list
> > > S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
> > >
> >
> >
>
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