[s-cars] Bans, and other list excitement...

[Christopher Leal]

I thought someone threatened someone, that's why they were banned from the list. Is this a bad game of telephone or what? Anybody threaten me and I'll killem! Anybody call me Francis and I'll kill'em!. :-)
 
I'm glad everyone contributes to the list. Entertainment comes in many forms.
 
C


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:17:29 EDT
From: Djdawson2 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Bans, and other list excitement...
To: editor at s-cars.org, s-car-list at audifans.com
Cc: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com
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In a message dated 6/6/2005 12:40:08 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
editor at s-cars.org writes:

It appears that while I was away you guys decided to throw a party. I
should have known something would be coming down the pipe since things have
been fairly calm on the list lately. The list is a lot like a volcano is
seems... it smolders, gets hot, and blows up from time before things return
to "relative" normal again. 

I'm going to put in 2 cents.
This list is probably the best behaved list I've been on. I've been a 
member of the 200 20v list, and currently subscribed to the UrQ and S-car lists. 
There have been outbreaks of various sorts... but nothing I'd ever consider 
to be long term detrimental. That being said...



Dan Simoes owns Audifans and is nice enough to let the S-Car List reside
here.

For that, I believe we are all grateful. When there are financial needs... 
let the members know. I have sent, and will send more to help keep the lists 
going. It's a service provided to us that certainly we appreciate, and has 
value.


Many of you know that Brett Dikeman has been a long time volunteer helping 
out at Audifans as well and while he's not been active in terms of moderation 
on the S-List in the past it doesn't mean that he can't step in from time to 
time and make a point. 


I applaud anyone who pitches in... but geese... we're talking about REALLY 
stupid issues here. Did Brett really make a point? To me, he made the point 
that he was willing to escalate stupid issues... and as a result, cause even 
more disturbance.

Just this past weekend, I got together briefly with a number of Colorado 
listers... one of whom was Dennis Graber. Dennis recently posted about an 85 
UrQ that the owner informed him was up for grabs. Dennis had no interest in 
the vehicle... and nothing to gain by posting about its availability. For 
those looking for an 85 UrQ, the search can be lengthy. When one becomes 
available... especially from a non lister... who wouldn't want to know about it? 
Well, apparently Brett wants to remain in the dark. He slapped a ban on Dennis 
for his good deed.

Was Brett making another point? What WAS the point? To make sure listers 
don't know about UrQs for sale? To keep our members uninformed? This 
particular car couldn't even be added to the marketplace, so what the hell is he 
supposed to do... REALLY... what is he supposed to do?

These are the things that make no sense to me. Maybe better than leaving 
things up to the sole discretion of Brett, "issues" (really non-issues) of this 
sort should be reviewed by a few people.

Shouldn't the purpose and content of a list containing many members be 
defined by the members themselves? Brett stated there was only one rule... 
respect. Sign me up!!! I'm in 100%. That being said, what "respect" violation 
did Dennis make?

Me... I participate on these lists for one reason... the sharing of 
information concerning the cars we're interested in. Is there really a cost to 
someone submitting a single post to inform folks of items up for sale? To me 
(someone who doesn't routinely surf the marketplace), there's certainly a cost of 
being unaware. If the general population of the list agrees, then what's 
the problem?

Last word... Have you ever met Dennis Graber? His name and the word "ban" 
should never be found in the same sentence. I don't support making personal 
attacks... but maybe Brett should lighten up a bit.

Nonetheless... my continued "thanks" for the lists that you and others make 
possible.
Dave