[s-cars] URS4 vs Biturbo S4

[Bruce Mendel]

I've owned both cars, and there is no comparison (at least with the 
bi-turbo). The Ur S-cars are built to a higher fit/finish standard, have 
less low quality materials, are much easier to work on mechanically, and 
have had fewer catastrophic epidemic failures in 10 years than the B5 cars 
have had in 3 years (can you say "blown K03's"?).

Besides, how many people do we know with ten year old 150K+ mile B5 S4's? 
None. So who's to say they are or will be more reliable?

Bruce
8 different Ur S-cars
1 B5 S4 (never again, but in no small part due to a driver's seat that 
inflicted horrible pain on my lower back)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Myers" <Bob at chips-ur-s.com>
To: "JR" <audiurs4 at mailforce.net>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] URS4 vs Biturbo S4


>
> Well, JR, my ten year old urS6 has just turned over 220K miles.  It is 
> true.  I have spent a pile of money on it but that money has provided some 
> quite nice (performance) upgrades.  (List below.)  As far as broken or 
> worn out items requiring expensive repairs goes there has been little of 
> that.  A blown clutch and a blown head gasket are the major items (aside 
> from the normally expected wear items - tires, brakes, shocks, etc.). 
> These both went south _after_ some of the performance mods were installed, 
> not before.
>
> My sole experience with a neuS4 has been one chance encounter at a 
> stoplight drag race.  He was watching my receding tail lights quite soon. 
> This was the (AFAIK) NA V8 neuS4.  I can tell you nothing of the biturbo. 
> If that was the biturbo in stock OEM configuration it was no match for 
> Miss Piggy.  I would, however, presume that it would be eminently tunable.
>
> At 04:58 PM 5/9/2005, JR wrote:
>
>>Aside from the URS4 being less expensive due to its age why would one
>>choose the URS4 over the Biturbo 2000-2003 S4?  Why would one choose the
>>Biturbo over the URS4?  Why do you folks prefer the URS4 over the
>>Biturbo?
>>
>>I'm at a crossroads with the car.  The URS4 is a known money pit always
>>needing attention.  I'm wondering if it would be less costly in the long
>>run to just upgrade to a used Biturbo now or keep the URS4 and keep
>>putting money into it.  Are the Biturbos just as needy?  Does insurance
>>hurt more?  Is the engine as strong and will it last as many miles as I
>>hear the URS4 will?
>>
>>Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>JR
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