[s-cars] Kids and cars

[Joe Pizzimenti]

You're probably right about that, but I was and I didn't panic, just held
the wheel straight and didn't change anything with what my right foot was
doing. Truck went straight and everything went fine. Can't say the same for
the guy behind me who I think hit the brakes, because I didn't see him after
that. Maybe he just thought I had just started a tsunami and he headed for
the hills, who knows?

Besides, I know what I'm doing. It's these other people you gotta watch for.
:-)

Joe

On 10/12/05, Mark Strangways <Strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
>
> I could not agree more, knowing how to get outta of the shitter (going
> back
> to //sfest 2004) is of get value... I certainly suggest high performance
> driving classes.
>
> But, on the other foot, maybe you should not do 50 MPH thru a construction
> zone at night in the rain.
>
> :-)
>
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Pizzimenti" <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
> To: "Mark Strangways" <Strangconst at rogers.com>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Kids and cars
>
>
> > Mark,
> > I was driving my F-150 the other night in pouring rain at 50mph on the
> > parkway when I come upon a construction zone that apparently didn't have
> > adequate drainage. It was dark and I couldn't see that there was about
> 20"
> > of standing water for about 200 feet. Knowing what I know about driving,
> > skid control and hydroplaning from both on road and on track experience,
> I
> > was able to keep the 5000+ lb truck straight.
> >
> > Shit happens. It's better to be prepared and trained to handle it as an
> > instinct than to shut down and panic because you're not ready for it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On 10/12/05, Mark Strangways <Strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My point here, and I am really holding back, is why do we have to learn
> >> how to drive out of a bad situation. They can be avoided well before
> they
> >> begin.
> >>
> >> I am not saying that the instruction of high performance driving skills
> >> are not an asset, far from it. The thread has focused on what car to
> get
> >> to
> >> survive a hit, or now, how to correct the car from a skid or hydro
> plan.
> >> This is all well good, but my money and time has been spent getting my
> >> child
> >> to understand why shit goes bad in the first place and to make sure she
> >> is
> >> not there when it does go bad.
> >>
> >> Kids need to know when things are going south, so they can save
> >> themselves. Your child may own a tank on wheels, but that ain't doing
> >> nothing when so idiot is behind the wheel that the car she / he is a
> >> passenger in. I would think my daughter knows enough to tell that
> person
> >> to
> >> pull over and let her out.
> >>
> >> This to me is more important than the car she drives (which is a 1988
> >> 190E
> >> POS). It isn't pretty, it isn't overly fast. But it's big enough and
> >> heavy
> >> enough to stay on the road in traffic.
> >>
> >> (going back to lurk mode now)
> >>
> >> Mark
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Taka Mizutani
> >> To: Mark Strangways
> >> Cc: calvinlc at earthlink.net ; s-car-list at audifans.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Kids and cars
> >>
> >>
> >> The Skip Barber teen course or something similar is required attendance
> >> if
> >> you can afford it.
> >> Learning the right techniques and not learning bad habits will pay huge
> >> dividends down the road.
> >>
> >> I can't even count the number of times that I've been able to avoid
> >> accidently because I was able
> >> to draw upon past autocross and track driving experience and I don't
> have
> >> that much of that kind
> >> of experience.
> >>
> >> I know that being able to handle a hydroplaning car at 45mph in a heavy
> >> rain with the car getting
> >> loose and having a car do a 270 literally less than 5 car lengths in
> >> front
> >> of me, all this happening
> >> at the same time, would not have been possible had I never spent time
> >> doing auto-x and track events.
> >>
> >> I know that having this experience, I was able to avoid major damage to
> a
> >> rental car on an icy road
> >> (crunched the grille and nothing else, super lucky). Those are only two
> >> instances.
> >>
> >> Taka
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/12/05, Mark Strangways <Strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
> >> It's about time someone talked about training vs. surviving a crash...
> >> I have been holding my tongue for a while now.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
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