[s-cars] Kids and cars, vol II - which vehicle dynamics course?

[Aaron Taylor]

Agreed,
I was lucky enough to have learned driving like rabid dog at 16 in my
off-road set up "baja bug" chasing my friends on their dirt bikes.
The car had steering brakes which made for some serious fun.  I did almost
all of my crashing and rolling off road only.
Loose traction situations is the way to learn control.
Ah the memories...
Aaron


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[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Joe Pizzimenti
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:48 AM
To: Ian Duff
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] Kids and cars, vol II - which vehicle dynamics course?

For spinning, car control and sliding, I don't think you could do any better
than a winter driving school, whether it be at Steamboat Springs, Colorado,
Team O'Neill in NH or any other low traction situation. You learn more in
that environment about car control than on a high speed track if only due to
the fact that you can experiment more with traction loss and experimentation
at low speed with less risk than trying to trailing throttle oversteer and
not hit a concrete barrier instead of a nice, soft, forgiving snowbank.

Joe

On 10/12/05, Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Wow, am I glad I started this thread!
>
> Here's a thought. The F-150 is for the first short while, when my daughter
> is almost certain to be in some sort of fender-bender. My informal survey
> of
> new drivers assures me that almost every new driver has a bodywork
> experience within the first few weeks of driving. The Jetta she will buy
> to
> replace the F-150 will do two things. First, it will put her into a much
> safer vehicle, for both her and for those with whom she shares the road.
> Second, it will get me a nice beater F-150 with which to visit Home Depot
> and haul lobster pots. I'm tired of cleaning up after doing this in the S6
> Avant.
>
> Something else I'm trying to figure out is which vehicle dynamics course
> to
> take with her. She needs to learn how to control a car, and spinning and
> sliding with expert instruction is the best way to learn this. So, whose
> course? Skippy? Bondurant? Jim Russell? Some other ace (although isn't
> "ace"
> spelled with two esses?)?
>
> So, to boil it down, the F-150 will stand her in good stead while she
> learns
> vehicle separation and anticipation. The vehicle dynamics course will
> teach
> her how to learn avoidance and active safety. The Jetta SHE WILL BUY WITH
> HER OWN MONEY will allow her to practice these lessons, to her benefit, as
> she moves fully into the automotive world.
>
> I stand by my earlier F-150 choice. I have no budget for a Neue Beetle,
> nor
> for a disposable Ovlov 240, when I will inherit a slightly dinged F-150 in
> fairly short order, from a thankful, considerate and still healthy
> daughter.
>
> -Ian Duff.
>
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