[s-cars] WAS gas prices, now racist subaru's

[RM]

I'm not as familiar with the latest models, and i never said that the suby 
was unsafe.  But the A4/A6 line as well as most VW's, over the course of the 
last decade, have always ranked very high in safety standards. Subarus are 
expensive to fix. Audi's are expensive to fix. But they are on two different 
levels. Being that the average subaru is a good $15k - $20k cheaper than an 
Audi, they shouldn't be nearly as expensive to repair, but they are. Also, 
just like VW and audi cars, many good independant service stations refuse to 
work on them, forcing some to go back to the dealer after the warranty 
expires. Lastly, as far as build quailty goes, typically subarus are not on 
par with many major car manuf. For instance, it's known that you should keep 
your suby waxed well, as if you ever need to buff out the pint, you're 
likely to hit primer very quickly. they skimp on the extra coat of paint 
that's basically industry standard. Silly things, that's all. Otherwise the 
cars are fairly reliable and yes, fun to drive as long as it has a turbo.

Rolf

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
To: "RM" <waves at epix.net>
Cc: <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>; <S-CAR-List at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] WAS gas prices, now racist subaru's


Fair enough Rolf, but the Impreza is IIHS double-best pick front/side impact
for a compact car- there are no other cars that beat the Impreza in crash
test performance in that size class the A4 VWs are not as good. I don't
think the A5 Golf/Audi A3 has been tested yet.
 I also don't think the repair cost is high- coming from Audis, I think
they're cheap.

 On 9/1/05, RM <waves at epix.net> wrote:
>
> Coming from an Audi tech, i'll say this. Subaru's are NOT nearly on the
> same
> level as Audi's in most catagories. True, Audi has their own issues
> (largely
> issues with supplier parts re:Bosch) But I've worked on, owned and driven
> scoobie-doos, and there is no way i'd place it before any audi of the same
> vintage. Fun to drive perhaps. But the quailty of workmanship is sub-par,
> cost to repair is expensive and overall it's not as safe as a similar
> sized
> Audi. Call me a car-racist then, but you won't see me turning the key of a
> subaru unless there's a gun to my head.
>
> Rolf
>
> >From: Joe Pizzimenti <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gas Prices - I'm right there with you Larry C
> >>To: lee at wheelman.com
> >Cc: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> >Message-ID: <521f4dda0509010507e03cb9b at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> >On 9/1/05, Lee Levitt <lee at wheelman.com> playahated:
> >
> >
> > Not too many options - awd wagon, fun to drive, good sized, safe.
> > Subaru is the only other choice that comes to mind, and I'm not
> > going there.
> >
> > Lee
>
>
> Why not, Lee?
> I've driven one and it ranks pretty high on the fun factor and even higher
> on the reliability factor. I say drive one before you make up your mind
> completely one way or the other, or you're just limiting yourself out of
> pure racism.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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