[s-cars] WAS gas prices, now racist subaru's

[Pasqualoni, James E]

The day that Subaru can field a competition car as successful and
revolutionary as the A2 Ur-q or the R8, then I'll start to consider them a
competitor to Audi.  Until then, the only place you'll see Subie's on my
property is on the WRC DVD's playing on my TV...

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[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of RM
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 3:26 PM
To: Wayne Dohnal; S-car list
Subject: Re: [s-cars] WAS gas prices, now racist subaru's

Agreed, my S4 is by far the most comfortable car i've owned. Even my wifes
new Allroad doesn't have the same feel. However, I feel we are judging
Audi's that are a different breed that the run of the mill A6/A4 etc. The
trick is to take both manufacturers as a whole and compare differences. All
companies are going to have their lemon cars within a particular model range
or even time frame. Just look at the current state of the early 90's V8q's. 
Fact is, subaru is a worthy competitor in the AWD vehicle market, for their
current price range. It will be interesting to see if the new A3 takes a
bite out of their sales. But Audi is in a class by itself when it comes to
stepping up.

Rolf

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Dohnal" <wd1 at hevanet.com>
To: "S-car list" <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <waves at epix.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:10 PM
Subject: [s-cars] WAS gas prices, now racist subaru's


> It's interesting how many opposite conclusions you hear.  Coming from the 
> owner of a '94 Audi and a '95 Subaru, I say the Subaru's workmanship is 
> top-notch, maintenance costs are way lower than with an Audi, and 
> maintenance is way simpler.  Two examples are that all of the engine 
> accessories are out in the open and easily accessible, and the timing belt

> is easily changed in 2 hours.  The engine appears to be a flimsy toy 
> compared to the I5, but it "keeps on tickin".  The only thing I've seen, 
> maintenance-wise, when the Subaru is sub-par is that the front crank seals

> go faster than the Audi's.  The Subaru runs flawlessly, handles great, and

> all the little things we're constantly fiddling with on the Audi don't 
> break.  But the Audi is way, way more comfortable and feels like a real 
> chunk of metal as opposed to a little crackerbox.  For any trip longer 
> than 10 minutes I will always choose to take the Audi over the Subaru.  I 
> just have to keep feeding it that steady diet of new parts.
>
> Wayne Dohnal
> 1994 S4
>
>
>>Coming from an Audi tech, i'll say this. Subaru's are NOT nearly on the 
>>same
>>level as Audi's in most catagories. True, Audi has their own issues 
>>(largely
>>issues with supplier parts re:Bosch) But I've worked on, owned and driven
>>scoobie-doos, and there is no way i'd place it before any audi of the same
>>vintage. Fun to drive perhaps. But the quailty of workmanship is sub-par,
>>cost to repair is expensive and overall it's not as safe as a similar 
>>sized
>>Audi.
>
>
>
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