[s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed

Mike P (530) mlped at qwest.net
Mon Dec 18 09:42:35 EST 2006 

One additional thought, if you have a choice and can swing it, 
a goose neck trailer set up, vs. a "bumper" pull is well worth considering,
especially for heavier twos.

FWIW, here in the west, Colorado Rockies, after watching/following some of
the roping teams hauling ass to make the next rodeo during the summer season
(i.e. often pulling 5+ horse goosenecks) through the mountains and,
especially across the high mountain desert, I feel I can confidently say,
the newer turbo diesels RUN LIKE STINK!!!  It's not rare to come on one,
fully loaded, pulling moderate uphill grades running at 90+.

Cheers
mike 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
>[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:59 AM
>To: Young, Steve
>Cc: S-CAR-List
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed
>
>
>Steve-
>Thanks for the feedback.
>
>Any idea how much a turbodiesel pickup will run, used?
>
>Taka
>
>
>On 12/18/06, Young, Steve <sryoung at trane.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Taka...
>>
>> I have to weigh in on the pickup idea also.  I have been towing 
>> trailers since I started driving, including cross country trips.  
>> Don't skimp on your tow vehicle.  Safety first.  I have been in a 
>> truck with a full load of wood
>> and a trailer fully loaded also coming down a steep grade 
>and have the
>> brakes fade to nothing.  Not fun as you could imagine.
>>
>> I have recently upgraded from a 2002 GMC extended cab 4x4 
>6.0L gas, to 
>> a 2002 Chevy crew cab 4x4 6.6L Duramax.  The difference is amazing, 
>> and the Duramax gets 18mpg to the gas motors 14mpg.  The 
>truck is big, 
>> don't get me wrong, but I drive it every day this time of year.
>>
>> I think a TD is the best value for a daily driver/tow 
>vehicle, and you 
>> can't beat the mileage for a vehicle that size, or the 
>resale value.  
>> One caveat,
>> if you start looking for a diesel truck, GMC/Chevy is the 
>only brand with
>> an
>> auto trans that will take the torque from the motor.  The six speed
>> Allison
>> autobox is sweet, and has a tow/haul mode also.  Ford and 
>Dodge don't have
>> a
>> tranny that is up to the job.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>                                 TRANE
>> Steven Young
>> Local Operations Manager
>> Albany Office
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:15 PM
>> To: Theodore Chen
>> Cc: S-CAR-List
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed
>>
>> If I get something that can tow, I want it to be able to tow the STi 
>> or a Corvette or a 911. That way, I wouldn't have to get a 
>replacement 
>> tow vehicle if I decide to tow something bigger than the Miata.
>>
>> Definitely mountains in PA, it's a climb to go to the Glen from 
>> Philly, I don't think it was much elevation going to Summit Point or 
>> Lime Rock, and I've not been to VIR yet.
>>
>> It's not something I'd do all the time, so there's no way 
>I'm getting 
>> a diesel crew- far too much truck for a few tows a year and most of 
>> the time being used for a daily driver, maybe hauling some 
>light stuff 
>> (produce, lumber, etc.).
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/06, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > although the touraeg is heavy, the wheelbase isn't that long.  the 
>> > best tow vehicle would be a 3/4 or 1 ton truck with crew cab and a
>> turbodiesel.
>> >
>> > it depends on how often you plan to tow and where you're 
>going to be 
>> > towing (a lot of mountains, or mostly flat?).
>> >
>> > what's this 3300 lb car you're going to tow, taka?  a miata is 
>> > nowhere near that, unless you fill it with lead.
>> >
>> > -teddy
>> >
>> > --- chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > VW Touareg maybe?
>> > >
>> > > 2004 with ~50,000 miles is in the $22k range.
>> > > But I don't know what it's towing capacity is.....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi listers,
>> > > > This may be a little while more in the future, but I 
>will need a 
>> > > > vehicle that will need the following:
>> > > >
>> > > > 4-wheel or all-wheel drive
>> > > > carry 4 passengers comfortably
>> > > > enough ground clearance to go through at least 12" of snow w/o 
>> > > > any issues (any more and I'm not going anywhere- roads will be 
>> > > > closed) quiet enough to carry a decent conversation on 
>the phone 
>> > > > (I want hands-free Bluetooth speakerphone- aftermarket or OEM) 
>> > > > can tow a 6000 lb. load w/o issues (3300lb. car and trailer as 
>> > > > the max.
>> > > > load)
>> > > > Under $30k, new or used, but financeable within reason 
>(can't be
>> > > > more than 5 yrs. old) reliable good safety record
>> > > >
>> > > > The towing capacity is an absolute must- if I get a 
>big vehicle, 
>> > > > it must be able to tow at least an open trailer with a max. 
>> > > > 3300lb. car on it, comfortably for at least 300 miles, up and 
>> > > > downhill (trailer would have electric brakes, I'd get an 
>> > > > Aluminum trailer if possible).
>> > > >
>> > > > I think there are no Audis that can do this except 
>maybe the Q7, 
>> > > > which is way more than $30k, so what can you suggest?
>> > > >
>> > > > If I do need this vehicle for work, gas mileage won't 
>really be 
>> > > > an issue (meaning I'll be able to afford it). :-)
>> > > >
>> > > > But I don't want to excessively waste gas for no reason.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm sure that some of you have tow vehicles for going to the 
>> > > > track and such, no?
>> > > >
>> > > > Taka
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