[s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed

Mon Dec 18 10:27:24 EST 2006

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If the 5th wheel hitch isn't possible, at least go for the receiver  
load equalizer hitch, frame mounted.
- -Ian Duff.

On  18 Dec 2006, at 9:42:35AM, Mike P ((530)) wrote:

> One additional thought, if you have a choice and can swing it,
> a goose neck trailer set up, vs. a "bumper" pull is well worth  
> considering,
> especially for heavier twos.
>
> FWIW, here in the west, Colorado Rockies, after watching/following  
> some of
> the roping teams hauling ass to make the next rodeo during the  
> summer season
> (i.e. often pulling 5+ horse goosenecks) through the mountains and,
> especially across the high mountain desert, I feel I can  
> confidently say,
> the newer turbo diesels RUN LIKE STINK!!!  It's not rare to come on  
> one,
> fully loaded, pulling moderate uphill grades running at 90+.
>
> Cheers
> mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:59 AM
>> To: Young, Steve
>> Cc: S-CAR-List
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed
>>
>>
>> Steve-
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Any idea how much a turbodiesel pickup will run, used?
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/06, Young, Steve <sryoung at trane.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Taka...
>>>
>>> I have to weigh in on the pickup idea also.  I have been towing
>>> trailers since I started driving, including cross country trips.
>>> Don't skimp on your tow vehicle.  Safety first.  I have been in a
>>> truck with a full load of wood
>>> and a trailer fully loaded also coming down a steep grade
>> and have the
>>> brakes fade to nothing.  Not fun as you could imagine.
>>>
>>> I have recently upgraded from a 2002 GMC extended cab 4x4
>> 6.0L gas, to
>>> a 2002 Chevy crew cab 4x4 6.6L Duramax.  The difference is amazing,
>>> and the Duramax gets 18mpg to the gas motors 14mpg.  The
>> truck is big,
>>> don't get me wrong, but I drive it every day this time of year.
>>>
>>> I think a TD is the best value for a daily driver/tow
>> vehicle, and you
>>> can't beat the mileage for a vehicle that size, or the
>> resale value.
>>> One caveat,
>>> if you start looking for a diesel truck, GMC/Chevy is the
>> only brand with
>>> an
>>> auto trans that will take the torque from the motor.  The six speed
>>> Allison
>>> autobox is sweet, and has a tow/haul mode also.  Ford and
>> Dodge don't have
>>> a
>>> tranny that is up to the job.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>                                 TRANE
>>> Steven Young
>>> Local Operations Manager
>>> Albany Office
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:15 PM
>>> To: Theodore Chen
>>> Cc: S-CAR-List
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Work vehicle advice needed
>>>
>>> If I get something that can tow, I want it to be able to tow the STi
>>> or a Corvette or a 911. That way, I wouldn't have to get a
>> replacement
>>> tow vehicle if I decide to tow something bigger than the Miata.
>>>
>>> Definitely mountains in PA, it's a climb to go to the Glen from
>>> Philly, I don't think it was much elevation going to Summit Point or
>>> Lime Rock, and I've not been to VIR yet.
>>>
>>> It's not something I'd do all the time, so there's no way
>> I'm getting
>>> a diesel crew- far too much truck for a few tows a year and most of
>>> the time being used for a daily driver, maybe hauling some
>> light stuff
>>> (produce, lumber, etc.).
>>>
>>> Taka
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/06, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> although the touraeg is heavy, the wheelbase isn't that long.  the
>>>> best tow vehicle would be a 3/4 or 1 ton truck with crew cab and a
>>> turbodiesel.
>>>>
>>>> it depends on how often you plan to tow and where you're
>> going to be
>>>> towing (a lot of mountains, or mostly flat?).
>>>>
>>>> what's this 3300 lb car you're going to tow, taka?  a miata is
>>>> nowhere near that, unless you fill it with lead.
>>>>
>>>> -teddy
>>>>
>>>> --- chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> VW Touareg maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2004 with ~50,000 miles is in the $22k range.
>>>>> But I don't know what it's towing capacity is.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>> This may be a little while more in the future, but I
>> will need a
>>>>>> vehicle that will need the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4-wheel or all-wheel drive
>>>>>> carry 4 passengers comfortably
>>>>>> enough ground clearance to go through at least 12" of snow w/o
>>>>>> any issues (any more and I'm not going anywhere- roads will be
>>>>>> closed) quiet enough to carry a decent conversation on
>> the phone
>>>>>> (I want hands-free Bluetooth speakerphone- aftermarket or OEM)
>>>>>> can tow a 6000 lb. load w/o issues (3300lb. car and trailer as
>>>>>> the max.
>>>>>> load)
>>>>>> Under $30k, new or used, but financeable within reason
>> (can't be
>>>>>> more than 5 yrs. old) reliable good safety record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The towing capacity is an absolute must- if I get a
>> big vehicle,
>>>>>> it must be able to tow at least an open trailer with a max.
>>>>>> 3300lb. car on it, comfortably for at least 300 miles, up and
>>>>>> downhill (trailer would have electric brakes, I'd get an
>>>>>> Aluminum trailer if possible).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there are no Audis that can do this except
>> maybe the Q7,
>>>>>> which is way more than $30k, so what can you suggest?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I do need this vehicle for work, gas mileage won't
>> really be
>>>>>> an issue (meaning I'll be able to afford it). :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I don't want to excessively waste gas for no reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure that some of you have tow vehicles for going to the
>>>>>> track and such, no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taka
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