[s-cars] Rear brake saga - The Questions have Ended!

Theodore Chen tedebearp at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 24 17:41:43 EST 2006


--- Steve Powers <sbpowers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Teddy -
> 
> > primarily in terms of leaks.  fewer interfaces for leaks to occur.
> > i'm sure either one is fine.  parts count is lower if you go with NPT.
> > also, if you go with banjo and you have pre-assembled lines, you'll need to
> > get a 3AN-banjo adapter.  if you assemble the line yourself, you can get
> > a banjo hose end, but watch out for clearance issues.  you might find
> > that the hex on the banjo hose end doesn't have much room to clear
> > the caliper, unless the caliper has a raised boss.  BTDT with the mustang
> > brakes.
> 
> adapters? unh-huh...
> 
> this really doesn't need to be as complicated as you seem to want to
> make it. the StopTech hoses I have are banjo at one end and fit nicely
> into the hard lines at the other. they do require 2 crush washers and
> a banjo bolt, but other than that it's dead simple.

steve, no need to get personal here.  this is for eric's information,
nothing else, and it's actually all the same to me whether he goes with
banjo or NPT.

i don't particularly like pre-made hoses, because i've had swaged
fittings start leaking between the hose and swaged fitting.  also, because
the hoses on the car are different lengths, i have to have several 
different sizes of spares.  i assemble my own out of bulk hose.  all 
i need are a length of bulk hose and some compression sleeves, and i can 
do a field replacement on any hose on the car in minutes.

the trouble i had with interference was when i tried to use a banjo hose
end with bulk hose.  the hose end had a hex on it (for attachment to the 
hose), which was large enough to prevent the crush washers from seating
fully against the banjo and caliper.  it felt OK, and it looked OK, but
ten minutes into the first drive, the brake warning light went on and i
found it was leaking badly.  my quick fix was to add a second crush washer
under the banjo to space the hex away from the caliper body.  the pre-made
hoses with swaged banjo ends don't have the hex so they don't have
interference problems.  but as i said before, i've had bad experiences
with swaged fittings.  YMMV.

i like the NPT fittings because i can get NPT caps at the hardware store 
to plug the lines, and i don't have to worry about crush washers.

-teddy


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