[s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!

Mon Jul 10 22:25:09 EDT 2006

Damn, I really hate this... but I have to agree with the Pizzo.
I think it would be fine to advertise an ebay auction for relevant articles,
better yet a pre ebay sale.
I NEVER think about the classifieds, and do not run them nifty little bots
to scavenge ebay for goodies.

I would love to get a heads up on interesting (s-car) stuff found on ebay
with them bots.

Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Pizzimenti" <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
To: <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <auditechni at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!

> And it's fallen on deaf ears.  The classifieds are browsed more by
Nigerian
> scammers than s-car-list subscribers.  That being said, I don't see the
harm
> in private party to private party adverts on the list, so long as it's not
> someone that's making it a regular thing.  The classifieds are great and
> all, but most of the people on here don't watch them often enough to pick
up
> something useful.
>
> I say keep these things on list...but no one listened to me last year when
I
> said it either.
>
> Oh, wait, maybe it was the way I said it.  :)
>
> Joe
>
> On 7/10/06, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Elitist list?  Naw, I can't agree with that.  This group has always
seemed
> > very easy-going, and willing to help folks on any level... making it a
fun
> > group to be part of.
> >
> > However, I still don't understand this ongoing banter about "for sale"
> > adds.  What is really the big deal?  If someone creates a brief post to
> > inform those of us who don't routinely scour the Audifans classifieds or
> > Ebay, doesn't that potentially benefit list members?  I think it does,
and I
> > like to know when someone is clearing out the garage, or posting a few
items
> > on Ebay.  I do not think it would be appropriate for "commercial"
listings
> > or items not Audi related, but for a private party to let folks know
that
> > things are up for sale... who cares?
> >
> > I know there has been the issue of bandwidth, but when this issue
surfaces
> > (every few months), we certainly use more space responding to the
"offender"
> > than would have been the case if it was simply a quick and informative
post.
> >
> > I'm all for adhering to some basic guidelines for making this list the
> > most beneficial to the participants... and grateful to those that keep
it
> > running.  However, this seems like an issue that should be revisited, as
it
> > seems harmless, and potentially beneficial to those in need.
> >
> > But I've said this before...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darin Nederhoff <editor at s-cars.org>
> > To: auditechni at yahoo.com <auditechni at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!
> >
> >
> > First of all Darren, I believe I politely sent this request to you in
> > private rather than making an example of you in public on the list.
Your
> > reply however was done to the entire list which in my opinion is in poor
> > taste.  It was never my intention to chastise you just to ask that you
not
> > use the list as an eBay clearning house.
> >
> > I can understand why you feel this is unfair, after all you are wanting
to
> > sell your stuff.  You ask where I was when other list members were
having
> > garage sales?  Right here monitoring the list.  You also missed one
> > important point...  these "garage sales" as you put it were typically
> > heads-up notes to the list saying that an individual was cleaning out
the
> > garage/basement and had the following stuff available if anyone was
> > looking.
> >
> > I am not God therefore I cannot be everywhere at once.  I am also not
the
> > owner of this list or email server therefore many of these guidelines
have
> > come from the original quattro list on Audifans.  As a member of the
list,
> > you know that we do try to keep things more casual and most 'ads' are
> > allowed to slide by... I think most members appreciate this and for the
> > most part it is self policing.  In the instance that an eBay auction is
> > referenced, it is typically a heads-up posted by another list member
> > rather than the seller himself/herself.
> >
> > Promotion of eBay auction listings are strictly prohibited within the
> > Audifans classifieds and this is why I also discourage members posting
> > lists of eBay auction links within posts to the lists.  If you are
having
> > a garage sale, by all means post your stuff within the Audifans and
S-CAR
> > Classifieds first and then give us a heads-up on it.  You'll likely find
> > some buyers and save yourself the eBay fees.
> >
> > I don't recall Europrice or Shokan posting directly to the list trying
to
> > move inventory.  I also don't recall any of them posting lists of stuff
> > they were selling on eBay.
> >
> > You seem to view the list as some elitist political thing and if that is
> > the way the world looks to you, then I am sorry.  Just because the
> > suggested rules don't fit your purpose you paint me as some elistist
ruler
> > that makes my own rules blah blah blah.  Dry that out and you can
> > fertilize the lawn.  Anyone who knows me knows that I don't pick
favorites
> > here and this is why I politely asked that you not post links to a bunch
> > of ebay auctions.  I know full well you're not some new list member out
to
> > cheat other list members.  Whether you are asking a lot or a little for
> > your items is not the point here. If you think this policy regarding
ebay
> > listing promotion stinks, bring it up with the actual owner of the list,
> > Dan Simoes.  I am sure that you'll get a similar response.
> >
> > As the moderator of this list I try to let things go and work themselves
> > out naturally whenever possible.  We're a pretty good natured group here
> > and it does generally sort itself out.  As you know, I did let your
first
> > post slide by without any mention now didn't I?  When the second one hit
> > the list it raised some questions from other list members and that is
when
> > I dropped you a line asking you to refrain from doing it again.
> >
> > It was merely a simple request and nothing more.  Like I said, use the
> > Audifans and S-CAR Classifieds first (both are free after all) and then
> > give us a heads-up about what you have posted in the classifieds.  Seems
> > fair enough?
> >
> >
> > Darin
> > S-CARS.ORG
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, July 9, 2006 1:01 pm, auditechni at yahoo.com said:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I informed the list because they are the ones who can
> > > really benefit from my loss. They are the ones who are
> > > saving money or getting obscure/ unavailable parts for
> > > a fraction of what its worth. I am not asking an
> > > insane amount of money for my pieces. I am not force 5
> > > or shokan.
> > >
> > >  I loved my car and the knowledge / camaraderie shared
> > > on this list. But I have never liked the elitism,
> > > favoritism and double standards that are found here
> > > and on other list and or forums. But after all this is
> > > your forum and you have the right make your own rules
> > > and to run it anyway you want.
> > >
> >
> >
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