[s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!

[Joe Pizzimenti]

And it's fallen on deaf ears.  The classifieds are browsed more by Nigerian
scammers than s-car-list subscribers.  That being said, I don't see the harm
in private party to private party adverts on the list, so long as it's not
someone that's making it a regular thing.  The classifieds are great and
all, but most of the people on here don't watch them often enough to pick up
something useful.

I say keep these things on list...but no one listened to me last year when I
said it either.

Oh, wait, maybe it was the way I said it.  :)

Joe

On 7/10/06, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Elitist list?  Naw, I can't agree with that.  This group has always seemed
> very easy-going, and willing to help folks on any level... making it a fun
> group to be part of.
>
> However, I still don't understand this ongoing banter about "for sale"
> adds.  What is really the big deal?  If someone creates a brief post to
> inform those of us who don't routinely scour the Audifans classifieds or
> Ebay, doesn't that potentially benefit list members?  I think it does, and I
> like to know when someone is clearing out the garage, or posting a few items
> on Ebay.  I do not think it would be appropriate for "commercial" listings
> or items not Audi related, but for a private party to let folks know that
> things are up for sale... who cares?
>
> I know there has been the issue of bandwidth, but when this issue surfaces
> (every few months), we certainly use more space responding to the "offender"
> than would have been the case if it was simply a quick and informative post.
>
> I'm all for adhering to some basic guidelines for making this list the
> most beneficial to the participants... and grateful to those that keep it
> running.  However, this seems like an issue that should be revisited, as it
> seems harmless, and potentially beneficial to those in need.
>
> But I've said this before...
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darin Nederhoff <editor at s-cars.org>
> To: auditechni at yahoo.com <auditechni at yahoo.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!
>
>
> First of all Darren, I believe I politely sent this request to you in
> private rather than making an example of you in public on the list.  Your
> reply however was done to the entire list which in my opinion is in poor
> taste.  It was never my intention to chastise you just to ask that you not
> use the list as an eBay clearning house.
>
> I can understand why you feel this is unfair, after all you are wanting to
> sell your stuff.  You ask where I was when other list members were having
> garage sales?  Right here monitoring the list.  You also missed one
> important point...  these "garage sales" as you put it were typically
> heads-up notes to the list saying that an individual was cleaning out the
> garage/basement and had the following stuff available if anyone was
> looking.
>
> I am not God therefore I cannot be everywhere at once.  I am also not the
> owner of this list or email server therefore many of these guidelines have
> come from the original quattro list on Audifans.  As a member of the list,
> you know that we do try to keep things more casual and most 'ads' are
> allowed to slide by... I think most members appreciate this and for the
> most part it is self policing.  In the instance that an eBay auction is
> referenced, it is typically a heads-up posted by another list member
> rather than the seller himself/herself.
>
> Promotion of eBay auction listings are strictly prohibited within the
> Audifans classifieds and this is why I also discourage members posting
> lists of eBay auction links within posts to the lists.  If you are having
> a garage sale, by all means post your stuff within the Audifans and S-CAR
> Classifieds first and then give us a heads-up on it.  You'll likely find
> some buyers and save yourself the eBay fees.
>
> I don't recall Europrice or Shokan posting directly to the list trying to
> move inventory.  I also don't recall any of them posting lists of stuff
> they were selling on eBay.
>
> You seem to view the list as some elitist political thing and if that is
> the way the world looks to you, then I am sorry.  Just because the
> suggested rules don't fit your purpose you paint me as some elistist ruler
> that makes my own rules blah blah blah.  Dry that out and you can
> fertilize the lawn.  Anyone who knows me knows that I don't pick favorites
> here and this is why I politely asked that you not post links to a bunch
> of ebay auctions.  I know full well you're not some new list member out to
> cheat other list members.  Whether you are asking a lot or a little for
> your items is not the point here. If you think this policy regarding ebay
> listing promotion stinks, bring it up with the actual owner of the list,
> Dan Simoes.  I am sure that you'll get a similar response.
>
> As the moderator of this list I try to let things go and work themselves
> out naturally whenever possible.  We're a pretty good natured group here
> and it does generally sort itself out.  As you know, I did let your first
> post slide by without any mention now didn't I?  When the second one hit
> the list it raised some questions from other list members and that is when
> I dropped you a line asking you to refrain from doing it again.
>
> It was merely a simple request and nothing more.  Like I said, use the
> Audifans and S-CAR Classifieds first (both are free after all) and then
> give us a heads-up about what you have posted in the classifieds.  Seems
> fair enough?
>
>
> Darin
> S-CARS.ORG
>
>
>
> On Sun, July 9, 2006 1:01 pm, auditechni at yahoo.com said:
>
> >
>
> > I informed the list because they are the ones who can
> > really benefit from my loss. They are the ones who are
> > saving money or getting obscure/ unavailable parts for
> > a fraction of what its worth. I am not asking an
> > insane amount of money for my pieces. I am not force 5
> > or shokan.
> >
> >  I loved my car and the knowledge / camaraderie shared
> > on this list. But I have never liked the elitism,
> > favoritism and double standards that are found here
> > and on other list and or forums. But after all this is
> > your forum and you have the right make your own rules
> > and to run it anyway you want.
> >
>
>
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