[s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!

[djdawson2 at aol.com]

Elitist list?  Naw, I can't agree with that.  This group has always seemed very easy-going, and willing to help folks on any level... making it a fun group to be part of.
 
However, I still don't understand this ongoing banter about "for sale" adds.  What is really the big deal?  If someone creates a brief post to inform those of us who don't routinely scour the Audifans classifieds or Ebay, doesn't that potentially benefit list members?  I think it does, and I like to know when someone is clearing out the garage, or posting a few items on Ebay.  I do not think it would be appropriate for "commercial" listings or items not Audi related, but for a private party to let folks know that things are up for sale... who cares?
 
I know there has been the issue of bandwidth, but when this issue surfaces (every few months), we certainly use more space responding to the "offender" than would have been the case if it was simply a quick and informative post.
 
I'm all for adhering to some basic guidelines for making this list the most beneficial to the participants... and grateful to those that keep it running.  However, this seems like an issue that should be revisited, as it seems harmless, and potentially beneficial to those in need.
 
But I've said this before...
 
Dave
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Darin Nederhoff <editor at s-cars.org>
To: auditechni at yahoo.com <auditechni at yahoo.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [s-cars] More S6 ebay items.../No more!


First of all Darren, I believe I politely sent this request to you in
private rather than making an example of you in public on the list.  Your
reply however was done to the entire list which in my opinion is in poor
taste.  It was never my intention to chastise you just to ask that you not
use the list as an eBay clearning house.

I can understand why you feel this is unfair, after all you are wanting to
sell your stuff.  You ask where I was when other list members were having
garage sales?  Right here monitoring the list.  You also missed one
important point...  these "garage sales" as you put it were typically
heads-up notes to the list saying that an individual was cleaning out the
garage/basement and had the following stuff available if anyone was
looking.

I am not God therefore I cannot be everywhere at once.  I am also not the
owner of this list or email server therefore many of these guidelines have
come from the original quattro list on Audifans.  As a member of the list,
you know that we do try to keep things more casual and most 'ads' are
allowed to slide by... I think most members appreciate this and for the
most part it is self policing.  In the instance that an eBay auction is
referenced, it is typically a heads-up posted by another list member
rather than the seller himself/herself.

Promotion of eBay auction listings are strictly prohibited within the
Audifans classifieds and this is why I also discourage members posting
lists of eBay auction links within posts to the lists.  If you are having
a garage sale, by all means post your stuff within the Audifans and S-CAR
Classifieds first and then give us a heads-up on it.  You'll likely find
some buyers and save yourself the eBay fees.

I don't recall Europrice or Shokan posting directly to the list trying to
move inventory.  I also don't recall any of them posting lists of stuff
they were selling on eBay.

You seem to view the list as some elitist political thing and if that is
the way the world looks to you, then I am sorry.  Just because the
suggested rules don't fit your purpose you paint me as some elistist ruler
that makes my own rules blah blah blah.  Dry that out and you can
fertilize the lawn.  Anyone who knows me knows that I don't pick favorites
here and this is why I politely asked that you not post links to a bunch
of ebay auctions.  I know full well you're not some new list member out to
cheat other list members.  Whether you are asking a lot or a little for
your items is not the point here. If you think this policy regarding ebay
listing promotion stinks, bring it up with the actual owner of the list,
Dan Simoes.  I am sure that you'll get a similar response.

As the moderator of this list I try to let things go and work themselves
out naturally whenever possible.  We're a pretty good natured group here
and it does generally sort itself out.  As you know, I did let your first
post slide by without any mention now didn't I?  When the second one hit
the list it raised some questions from other list members and that is when
I dropped you a line asking you to refrain from doing it again.

It was merely a simple request and nothing more.  Like I said, use the
Audifans and S-CAR Classifieds first (both are free after all) and then
give us a heads-up about what you have posted in the classifieds.  Seems
fair enough?


Darin
S-CARS.ORG



On Sun, July 9, 2006 1:01 pm, auditechni at yahoo.com said:

>

> I informed the list because they are the ones who can
> really benefit from my loss. They are the ones who are
> saving money or getting obscure/ unavailable parts for
> a fraction of what its worth. I am not asking an
> insane amount of money for my pieces. I am not force 5
> or shokan.
>
>  I loved my car and the knowledge / camaraderie shared
> on this list. But I have never liked the elitism,
> favoritism and double standards that are found here
> and on other list and or forums. But after all this is
> your forum and you have the right make your own rules
> and to run it anyway you want.
>


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