[s-cars] How many people on this list have gone the 2.6l route?

Mon Jun 26 14:41:17 EDT 2006

Believe it or not... one of our local UrQ guys has a 2.5 20v.  He is using the sport q EM.  Bolted on to it is a meager little 46 trim Garrett.  The power output throughout the range is downright stunning... almost violent.

My take is similar on a stroker.  Given the stroke options available to us, I would limit the rpm to the mid 6k range, and bolt on a fairly conservative turbo.  This would make really good power starting in the 2krpm range, and pull well through 6500 with ease.

IMO, a stroker isn't about peak hp... it is about area under the curve, and a flat torque curve.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: calvinlc at earthlink.net
To: Mark Strangways <StrangConst at rogers.com>; Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:14:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [s-cars] How many people on this list have gone the 2.6l route?

That's exactly what I think about the stroker/turbo match as well, Mark.
It's all a matter of how you want to drive it...it's likle camshaft
selection in a normally aspirated car...it determines the power band and
driving characteristics.
--Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Mark Strangways
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:24 PM
To: Ron Wainwright; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] How many people on this list have gone the 2.6l
route?

Just my 3 cents worth here,
Part of the charm of the stroker comes from it's longer throw (crank) this
will certainly give an early tourque number. Why not complement that with a
GT30R since it will spool up like lightning with a stroker and gives some
real world killer low RPM torque. This (to me) is what the 2.5 /2.6 would be
better at, not high flying RPM. I think Dave has shown what a 2.2 can do
with the right heart, and to me that is the motor to be running at
stratisferic shift points.

I love my GT30R, but it spools a weee bit to late for my use (there I said
the key phrase... MY USE). I quess what my point is here can be sumerized as
"Use the size of turbo for your intended vehicle use", if you going to be
out on the track and what high RPM power than big is the way to go. If you
want to embarrass many cars on the road today with traffic light launches, a
well matched turbo to spool up as early as possible with out leaving you
looking for another gear is the way to go. Now if you want both I would say
get a good lawyer first so you can beat all the summons :-)

that's all

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wainwright" <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: [s-cars] How many people on this list have gone the 2.6l route?

>
>  Well I'm one of those people!
>  This is what I plan on using as posted below.
>
>  With the exception of I know what turbo I'm using
> which is the GT 35R.
>
>  At first I was going to go with the 92.8mm crank so I
> could still utalize my AAN block..all I would have to
> do is change the pistons, & probley the rods(since I
> would be in there). But I got a great deal on the Euro
> van block which use a 155mm rod.
>
>  I'm going to go with the 034MS 2C for Engine
> managment. Instead of AEM. I was looking at
> Motech/Haltech for EM, But Javads got the best stuff
> out there.
>
>  The only question I have is bearings...I need to know
> if the Rs2 "Hardened" Bearings will work The part #'s
> I have are,
> 034 198 491A for Sport q, Euro van(ACU/AAB), 7A, MC,
> WR, GU, & WX.
>  The other part #'s 034 198 491C for AAN, ADU, ABY,
> 3B, & RR.
>  Others who'v used the setup I'm using have any words
> of wisdome on Bearings???
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Wainwright [mailto:ron_01056 at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 8:15 PM
> > To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] 2.5 Eurovan crank &..
> >
> >
> >
> >  Calvin, As usual with most decisions they change.
> > My
> > new route(today) is I just got offered a Eurovan
> > bottom end. Block, crank(95.5mm), Pauter rods, &
> > Weisco pistons. For an incredibly low price! That'll
> > take care of the lower end,
> > then I'll do valves & seals, HD valve springs, light
> > weight lifters, thinking about 7A exhaust & intake
> > cams, Bla, Bla, Bla
> >  Turbo is still up in the air. But it will be a
> > Garrett BB GT turbo.
> >  Going to do a new intake. Like this,
> > http://www.tdif.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=118
> >  & a big bore throttle body. this,
> >
> http://search.ebay.com/75mm-throttle_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8
> >  A better desighn manifold. This,
> > http://www.tdif.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=128
> > Thanx
> > Ron
> > 90 80q 20vt STROKER AAN project
> > 90 V8q 3.6 not stock
> > 93 V8q 4.2 "The Green Monster"
> > & a Porsche 944 F.S(somethings gotta go!)
> >
> >  There are alot of other things that I'll need as
> > well
> > to tigh everything together. But getting such a
> > great
> > deal on a lower end all ready done will save a lot
> > of
> > $.
> >  With the 92.8mm route woulld have cost close to
> > $10G
> >
> > --- calvinlc at earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > I have been contemplating doing something similar
> > > with my S4.  Please let me
> > > know how it turns out.  I would love to take a
> > ride
> > > in it if/when you get it
> > > done.  (I assume you are in CO if you are talking
> > to
> > > Dave Jones).
> > >
> > > --Calvin
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> > > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Ron Wainwright
> > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:36 PM
> > > To: mlped at qwest.net
> > > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 2.5 Eurovan crank &..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Ha inside joke...but Mr Jones got a hold of me
> > > about
> > > my options & others as well on the motorgeek site
> > &
> > > I
> > > think I'm going to go this route(& if any ones got
> > > suggestions feel free to voice them),
> > > 92.8 crank
> > > widened HG
> > > Scat rods 144mm
> > > Garrett BB Gt turbo probably going with the 3071.
> > > What
> > > you guys think?
> > > Weisco pistons 29.6mm CH what would be the wrist
> > pin
> > > mm?
> > > header probably a Lovefab looks sexy as hell
> > > Intake Manifold, would like to hear some info on
> > > this.
> > > 034MS 2C 20vt package
> > > plug in coil packs for the 2C
> > > head machined, valves, seals, HD Valve springs,
> > > lifters, port/polish
> > > Exhaust will be tremendous, & flow like a
> > > sunavamabeech
> > >  & some other this & that stuff.
> > >  Hope to achieve around 500WHP?
> > >
> > >  All this motor will be going into a 90 80q!
> > >  Any & all info greatly appreciated.
> > > Thanx
> > > Ron
> > > 90 80q 20vt AAN project
> > > 90 V8q 3.6 not stock
> > > 93 V8q 4.2 "The Green Monster"
> > > & a Porsche 944 F.S
> > >
> > > --- mlp on D530 <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Go ahead Joe.  Rub it in.  Wish I could offer
> > some
> > > > BTDT ..... unfortunately
> > > > it's never happened.  There is, if Ron wants to
> > > > search, a fair amount of
> > > > information in the list archives on 2.5
> > "stroker"
> > > > lore, and there is,
> > > > waiting in the wings Hap's project in the making
> > > > with Dave Jones.
> > > >
> > > > HTH someone, but so far the best I can offer is
> > > only
> > > > either good luck, or
> > > > ..... does some one what to buy a lot of
> > expensive
> > > > parts?  :-)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Joe Pizzimenti
> > > > >
> > > > >Paging Pedersen...
> > > > >
> > > > >On 6/15/06, Ron Wainwright
> > <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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