[s-cars] was (no subject) now countermeasures

[Postupack, Jeff]

You got issues Paul and lots of data down there! thanks

Taka:

" visually detect the trooper before getting hit with laser, if you're vigilant about it. 900' is about the limit for laser for the cops to get a good reading. "
 
My Lidatek LE-30 actually saved my ass twice now in Laser spotting.  Gave me enough time to pinch those discs firmly and brake.
Thanks to stiff suspension the nose doesn't dive too bad before the 2nd 'beam" hits, by then reduced speed by 20mph.
I really don't think V1 gives (me) enough advance Laser warning on a regular basis. Or maybe I'm just too freakin' slow.
 
"Honestly Officer I wasn't drivin' fast, was just flyin' LOW!"
 
Agreed the cop needs a good visual target to record speed laser style, however my aging vision I would probably miss noticing him, hence the Lidatek.
 
type 44 and C4 taillights mods.. 
 
That's a great idea I have not yet implemented.
 
Would make identification suspect and uncertain. Thanks for the night time tactics.
 
Leaves the topic of Instant on, as Abe points out in sparsely populated VT and upcountry, we're moving ducks!
 
Posto
 


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	From: Taka Mizutani [mailto:t44tqtro at gmail.com] 
	Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:12 AM
	To: pkrasusky at ups.com
	Cc: S-CAR-List at audifans.com; Jeff.Postupack at analog.com; r0ssat0_987 at att.net
	Subject: Re: [s-cars] (no subject)
	
	
	Paul-
	I've never really had any issues with detecting laser due to my detector being high
	up on the windshield. I've been careful to keep it in the clear glass, not behind a tint strip.
	
	You want to keep the detector high for optimal radar detection. 
	
	I've only rarely been able to detect laser before actually getting hit directly and I've always been in visual range already. You can usually visually detect the trooper before getting hit with laser, if you're vigilant about it. 900' is about the limit for laser for the cops to get a good reading. 
	
	Light colored cars are the worst- they would have a hard time clocking my Miata if I painted it flat black.
	
	Depending on where you are and how much traffic is around, it's pretty easy to evade a laser clocking at night- they have to aim at your car, then identify your car in the dark and then chase after you. If there is traffic, it's not that hard to just "disappear." 
	
	With the type 44 and C4 taillights, it wouldn't be hard to have some switches installed to change the taillight lighting in those situations- your car would look different and then it would be very hard to find you. Or kill your taillights entirely, makes it really hard to follow if you have some traffic to run interference. 
	
	
	Taka 
	 
	

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		From: pkrasusky at ups.com [mailto:pkrasusky at ups.com] 
		Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:00 AM
		To: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
		Cc: r0ssat0_987 at att.net; Jeff.Postupack at analog.com
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		Jeff enjoyed countermeasuring: 

		<<<Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:12:41 񨾰 
		From: r0ssat0_987 at att.net (Robert Rossato) 
		Subject: Re: [s-cars] hardwired v1...and turbo upgrade 
		To: "Postupack, Jeff" <Jeff.Postupack at analog.com>, 

		> Is it true Laser cannot be used at night time for detection?  Seems  hard for 
		> the officer to fix on a target after sundown? 
		>  
		> Posto 

		Only if you drive around without your headlights on ;-) 

		bob>>> 



		Correctomundo.  Laser does work at night, just with a notably reduced effective range.  And yes bright lights *do* help further reduce LASER effectiveness.


		Few points.  Do some reading folks (I'm sure many of you fellowfools here have), I have extensively and have the 'luxury' of having extensive situational 'experience'.  

		1st, those who run their V1's and whathaveyou up on the windshield header are reducing your unit's effectiveness at intercepting laser encounters.  Laser is a fine beam with limited 'scatter', and is aimed as you know @ your license plate first headlight 2nd.  Having the unit a good 3' higher than that *does* reduce its ability to react.  Mount it down as low to the hoodline as possible.  And then (I love when I see this), ensure it's PARALLEL to the deck... overhead aircraft, spaceships, etc. are not shooting at you but roadside pigs.  Aim accordingly.

		B), mounting the unit behind a tinted windshield strip also has a diluting effect on the unit.  Not dramatic buthey I'll take every bit I can get. 

		III), hiding the unit has never been a topic of conversation during my er, 'encounters' (nor my euro front tag).  'Situations' usually have dictated 'other' areas of pigs attention.  I've both snarfed it off the dash quicklike and left it up there (when zero time to snarf), it's never come up.  I figure basically even my 6' under grandmother runs a detector these days and they know it.  Again, it's never come up, during 'multiple opportunities'.  When I can snarf it I will as why rub pigs' noses in it, but when I can't oh well.  But I will not bend over backward to hide it's mounting - I'm bending over enough here these days.

		4) no hiding from 'instant on'.  I got bagged once with that, sucked.  Heh one other time the NH pig stopped dead on interstate's other direction, REVERSED (!!!WTF???) blow a U'ey, and headed out for me.  Effective defense?  Study Smokey & The Bandit, Cannonball Run, Dukes of Hazzard.  I matted it onward and tucked in way ahead between a few tractor trailers, then casually watched Johnny L shoot right on buy.  Sweetness.

		YMMV, and, again, ISSUES here. 

		-Paul reduced Hartford Pig on interstate to EXIT HIS VEHICLE IN THE SNOW COVERED MOVING TRAVEL LANE to shout "get off my arse" last week - BwHA! K.

		CT - pigfarm 
		'95 //Stealth6 - or not enough 
		'84 4kq - apparently also vulnerable 
		'58 TR3 - some funny stories there 

		ps.  fight da powah!